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Old 04-21-2010, 02:53 PM   #16
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Re: Did the Dalai Lama Contradict Buddhism?

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I have responded to what you have written in this thread and this context. I'm not a psychic.
Nope.

You have made a mistake by misunderstanding the fundamental difference between a Buddhist and a Christian.

There is no God anchoring Buddhism. So its easier for them to say they will reverse because there is no being to erase.

All I'm saying is I am open to look at the findings. Not to erasing God. To Christians God is a being.

From your perspective as an atheist you have no personal experience of such a relationship so I don't think you can relate to this unless you can accept my point of view from personal experience.

So now you can prove all Christians are closed minded or I think I just won the point.
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:08 PM   #17
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Nope.

You have made a mistake by misunderstanding the fundamental difference between a Buddhist and a Christian.

There is no God anchoring Buddhism. So its easier for them to say they will reverse because there is no being to erase.

All I'm saying is I am open to look at the findings. Not to erasing God. To Christians God is a being.

From your perspective as an atheist you have no personal experience of such a relationship so I don't think you can relate to this unless you can accept my point of view from personal experience.

So now you can prove all Christians are closed minded or I think I just won the point.
First you write a post on how I take things out of context, then you offer up a plethora of explanations as to why I wrote what I wrote, what I actually wrote and what my personal experiences are?

I'll repeat: I responded to what you wrote in this thread. There is no deeper meaning to it, there is no characterization of Christians and Buddhists behind it and it certainly does not in any meaningful way or form imply that I have to prove that all Christians are close minded.
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:11 PM   #18
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First you write a post on how I take things out of context, then you offer up a plethora of explanations as to why I wrote what I wrote, what I actually wrote and what my personal experiences are?

I'll repeat: I responded to what you wrote in this thread. There is no deeper meaning to it, there is no characterization of Christians and Buddhists behind it and it certainly does not in any meaningful way or form imply that I have to prove that all Christians are close minded.

If you don't want to stand by your own words or feel that they inaccurately describe you, that's fine. Don't cough up some street psychoanalysis of why me taking your words at face value reveals some lack of personal experience that prevents me from understanding what you really meant.
Nevemind you're the one who started in getting personal.

Faith is not the LAB and if a Buddhist doesn't equal a Christian to start with how can you expect identical results?

I'll just agree to disagree with you but don't expect to take a lemon and an orange and take the fructose out of both and end up with the same thing. They weren't identical to begin with....so obv.
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:18 PM   #19
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Nevemind you're the one who started in getting personal.

Faith is not the LAB and if a Buddhist doesn't equal a Christian to start with how can you expect identical results?

I'll just agree to disagree with you but don't expect to take a lemon and an orange and take the fructose out of both and end up with the same thing. They weren't identical to begin with....so obv.
Getting personal?

You basically wrote that you agreed with Dalai Lama that one should be openminded about scientific inquiry into the domain of one's religion, because if scientific inquiry disagreed with the bible you expected this to change at a later date?

I merely pointed out that this makes you a religious dogmatic, a statement I stand behind fully.

And now I have suddenly become personal, I have written out of context, I have assumed Christians and Buddhists are identical, I lack the personal experience to understand you, I failed to take into account how you were in real life, I failed to take into account how you were before you started posting in 2+2 and I have expected identical results from a Christian and a Buddhist, I have to prove all Christians are closeminded and let's not forget that this whole thread was suddenly a contest that you somehow won.

If you don't want to stand behind your own words, that is fine. Just...stop offering an ever increasing stream of incoherent posts at me.
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:26 PM   #20
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Bible scientific foreknowledge is a load of crap. It takes an idea from science, and looks for a few vague verses from the bible, and goes SEE SEE I TOLD YOU.

I see your creation wiki, and raise you my rational wiki

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Eternal..._Foreknowledge
LOL...

Science is only peripheral in the bible. The bible is best when its viewed poetically...Its God's love letter to his children.

I like the video where Craig explains how Augustine viewed God's creation as having "potentialities". I saw the bible before as foundational but "potentialities" may be a better way to explain it. He describes his foundation in the bible. It doesn't mean the world froze in time or stops growing. Obviously it doesn't.

Also there is such a thing as poetic license and it takes imagination to be able to understand science given obliquely through poetic devices.
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Old 04-21-2010, 03:30 PM   #21
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Getting personal?

You basically wrote that you agreed with Dalai Lama that one should be openminded about scientific inquiry into the domain of one's religion, because if scientific inquiry disagreed with the bible you expected this to change at a later date?

I merely pointed out that this makes you a religious dogmatic, a statement I stand behind fully.

And now I have suddenly become personal, I have written out of context, I have assumed Christians and Buddhists are identical, I lack the personal experience to understand you, I failed to take into account how you were in real life, I failed to take into account how you were before you started posting in 2+2 and I have expected identical results from a Christian and a Buddhist, I have to prove all Christians are closeminded and let's not forget that this whole thread was suddenly a contest that you somehow won.

If you don't want to stand behind your own words, that is fine. Just...stop offering an ever increasing stream of incoherent posts at me.
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Old 04-21-2010, 07:03 PM   #22
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So when Dalai Lama says that your religious belief should be open to scientific inquiry (and ofcourse that scientific inquiry most open to scrutiny), then you agree with him on the grounds that when scientific inquiry does not agree with your religion it will undoubtedly at some later point come to see the truth?

I hate to break it to you, but you don't agree with him at all. Actually, you are hardliner religious dogmatic with that view - and the least you could do is to be honest about it.
Oh I just realized...I think you interpret the Dalai Lama's statement differently from what I stated in the OP post.

I didn't say the Dalai Lama said religious belief should be open to scientific inquiry. That's different from them running into conflict or contradiction with one another.
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