As usual I will be direct: If you do not know what is demonic possession, please just read and don't write posts here - not until you know what is demonic possession.

I am very curious to explore what if any contribution is there with demonic possession, to mankind, namely: you and me and everyone else human, including the victim himself of demonic possession.

I will start my thinking on this thread with speculating on what is the contribution of demonic possession to the person in demonic possession, namely, afflicted with the phenomenon of demonic possession.

Right away I will say that if the victim is full time into being situated as the victim of demonic possession, he or she is not I observe into doing something with his life, like for example, you and me and everyone else who are in normal life, we are into several pursuits or yes also flights.

Pursuits and/or flights in order to stay healthy, active, and involved in undertakings of yes, to be tautologous, of kinds of pursuits and flights, to hopefully more often than not, enjoy life.

So, our first question is whether the possessed person is conscious or not, because the person could be a walking dead, only he is not just walking but also displaying weird conduct which is alarming to normal fellow humans to watch, to satisfy their penchant to view things with a fellow human which are absorbing our notice.

If the victim is not conscious though displaying movements and gestures, etc., then it is impossible to interact with the victim.

And we have to interact with him, at least to hear his own account of what he is into willingly or unwillingly, and why.


What are your comments to my talk so far in this thread?

I think mankind is the victim of this thread.

I think it's rambling and incoherent.

Dear Aaron, you have this habit of appearing lost.

In which just choose the sentence any one, that you see to be comprehensible to you, then tell me what is that sentence; from that point we will proceed to exchange thoughts on how that sentence is relevant to the issue of this thread.

Okay?

Okay. I choose this one.

"what is that sentence"

As you are literate, please choose a phrase there that is short.


But what is really your intention in this thread, to annoy me?

Instead of contributing your thoughts to the inquiry what's the contribution to mankind with the phenomenon of demonic possession?

I might have to just disregard altogether reading your posts, so that I will not be exasperated by your endeavor to annoy me, instead of us two collaborating together to advance knowledge to the profit of readers and of course us two.

When I do that, I will put an inscription at the top of my posts that I am not in any event reading your posts, for personal reasons; or better, at the bottom of my posts.

Didn't I do that already?

At least partially, yes.

As I stated, I found your post to be rambling and incoherent.

Feel free to inscribe whatever you want whatever you want. You seem to be doing that already.

Dear everyone here, thanks for your presence,


Now, I am thinking of how the victim of demon possession can be a good contribution to himself or herself [henceforth, himself but including also herself].

Since Hollywood and talk show entrepreneurs are making money for themselves with their movie shows and tv shows, it is possible I submit to speak to the person in charge of the demon possessed victim, to the end that they themselves also go into show business, that should be a source of income for the maintenance of the demon possession victim.

Or offer the victim to be the subject of research studies to candidates of post graduate academic degrees.

This idea may sound like going into the commercial involvement of the demon possessed victim, and what is wrong with that? For the victim it is a decent and legal contribution from himself to his own upkeep, of course he will need the assistance of his closest next of kin, or the person in legal charge of him.

I have been reading up on demon possession, and I don't seem to have come to such an idea, in my reading so far.



Happy thinking and writing!

it's THEMself.

Thanks everyone for your presence.


My purpose here in this thread is really very practical; but what is, you will ask me, to pursue a practical objective?

Practical is the adjective corresponding to the verb and noun, practice.

If you have a practice like in the domain of law i.e. rules imposed by government to be observed by the populace, it means that you have an activity with your time and effort to earn a living, by telling people what are the rules you have to observe in any act you want to undertake, like for example, you want to import a party drug called ecstasy, or build a hut in New York Central Park, that is an example of a practice, practice in the domain of law, and most important, you earn money by which you can pursue anything and everything not prohibited by law, to enjoy life.

So, this thread is about how demon possession, the phenomenon which is impacting on a human, can and should be and is a contribution, a practical contribution to mankind at large, starting with the demon possession victim himself. for a start.

What about me, what am I doing with starting threads in internet forums?

No, I am not into earning money, but into enjoying life,

That is my way of enjoying life, one of its pleasures, for myself with internet discussions; specifically I love to find out how people think, and in internet forums posters and readers of their posts are into thinking; though in fact there are many who do not think but emote, i.e. display their emotions of anger, hatred, envy, fear, pride, vanity, etc., instead of thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas, to come to knowledge or more enhancement of knowledge.


Back to the topic of this thread, what is the contribution to mankind in the phenomenon of demon possession afflicting a human.

First, I propose we all think on ways and means to help the victim to make a living from his peculiar condition, as there are peoples who love i.e. are thrilled to view such a phenomenon as a demon possession.



Happy thinking and writing!

First I propose that you show that such a thing ( demonic possession) actually exists

Touch your nose.

Well, you can dispense yourself from this thread.

You also, Aaron

No thanks. I'll keep thinking and writing happily.

Stopped reading here.

No. If you are going to make a claim, that demonic possession exists, and that it can be a benefit to mankind, first you have to show that such a thing actually exists. Otherwise you are just a dishonest poster spewing hot air. Otherwise, we could end up discussing whether pixies are of benefit to mankind.

Dear everyone here, thanks for your presence.


Now, I am going to request you, oh silent majority, to propose something from your part, in re demonic possession and its contribution to mankind, the phenomenon that is.

Then we can work together to come to concurrence on our differing takes on the issue.

Now, if you are wondering whether demon possession has existence or not, please think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas; so, ready, to think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas?

Here goes, but it is my position, you can and should add your contribution, that word again, contribution - yes, everything has a contribution to man's understanding of existence and the why there is existence and also the irrefutable truth and fact, that the default status of things in the totality of being is existence.

Here goes: You see, oh silent majority, there is already in the vocabulary of English, the term demonic possession, wherefore people who do read at all, anything and everything readable and available to people who do read at all, they know what is being published or what they hear, when the term, demonic or demon possession is spoken of.

That term refers to a phenomenon, an event that is observable, so it exists, the event or occurrence or happening, or the fact, it exists, namely:

That there is a human who exhibits a behavior to which people who do know the term demonic or demon possession [henceforth demon possession to be brief] ascribe the word and concept of demon possession.

Of course, insofar as the term demon possession is concerned, it has to do with the observable phenomenon of a human displaying the behavior; and, pray, what is that behavior?

I will go to Wikipedia which is the most accessed internet online reference for all kinds of concepts and objects humans talk about, at least talk about if not disquisition on.

Quote:
… [demonic possession] makes them utter blasphemy, speak tongues they have never learned, discovers to them unknown secrets, and inspires them with the knowledge of the obscurest things in philosophy or theology.[A 1] Descriptions of demonic possessions often include erased memories or personalities, convulsions (i.e. epileptic seizures or “fits”) and fainting as if one were dying.[1] Other descriptions include access to hidden knowledge (gnosis) and foreign languages (xenoglossy), drastic changes in vocal intonation and facial structure, the sudden appearance of injuries (scratches, bite marks) or lesions, and superhuman strength. Unlike in channeling, the subject has no control over the possessing entity and so it will persist until forced to leave the victim, usually through a form of exorcism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonic_possession

So, please, oh silent majority, be guarded against self-perverted liars opinion makers who insist that there is no existence to demon possession, for whatever objective they are seeking to accomplish with you, oh silent majority.

We are talking about the phenomenon as described above in Wikipedia, it exists and everything starting with the central character, the victim of demon possession, the circumstances of place, time, etc., all the five w’s and one h: namely, who, what, where, when, why, and how, reporters of news events write about, they all exist in objective reality outside our mind.


So, oh silent majority, be you also eloquent with your thinking on the subject, or my thread here, Demonic possession, what’s its contribution to mankind.

I am at this point concerned with how to help the victim work out some monetary income for himself, for his own upkeep, as while he is a victim, still he has expenses to shoulder, or in brief, still he has a life to pursue, and make the most of.



Happy thinking and writing, contribute your thoughts to this thread, and we will have the mutual pleasure of this most peculiar delight of thinking humans, the investigation of all kinds of phenomenon of nature and of man.


So, again, happy thinking and writing!

Touch your balls. Then google demon possession masturbation and confirm that you are possessed.

Most accessed does not imply most correct, most truthful, or most useful.

Yeah, be guarded because there's a wikipedia mention. And the internet wouldn't lie to you like that.

(1) Run for president of the US.
(2) ???
(3) Profit!

Dear Aaron, please go away.

I appreciate the suggestion, but no thanks. I'll keep thinking and writing happily.

Thunder and lightening exists, therefore the Norse god of thunder and lightening exists....

Thanks everyone for your presence, even Neeeel and Aaron, though I told them I have dispensed them from attendance in my threads, here and in the one on How to come to God existing with thinking on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas.


Now, dear silent majority, what do you say, before we can help a fellow human who is situated in a condition afflicting his physical person and moral person - moral here means emotional, psychological, social, not in the sense of ethical rightness or wrongness, afflicting him as to render him difficult for himself to live life and work for a living and of course enjoy life, like the big mass of fellow humans, namely, the trouble of demon possession plaguing him, we have got to determine at all whether he and us can interact productively, first of all, to communicate meaningfully.

That is a long paragraph above, but I am sure, oh silent majority, you get my thought, though, correctly.

From my reading of accounts describing cases of demon possession, it is evident that the victim does interact with people who do care to interact with him, for the victim in all cases ask for help to rid him of his undesirable condition.

So, we can, the victim and us together, make an inventory of his assets and liabilities at this stage and state of his life history; from this inventory we can already make use of his assets and find ways and means to neutralize his liabilities, all in aid of us together, the victim and us good Samaritans, achieve a favorable adjustment from his part to his condition and in his relationship with people who are close to him, like members of his family, friends, neighbors, others who know him from work or social mingling.

At this point, dear silent majority, please read up on cases of demon possession, you will find enough reports in the web to get acquainted more intimately with the phenomenon, then you can think on what are the assets and what the liabilities of a victim of demon possession.


Happy thinking and writing.

PS
Dear Neeeel and Aaron, as you have this great attachment to stay and participate in my threads, please choose anything at all, but one specific point, you want me to exchange thoughts with you about, but relevant to the thread.

I know that you don't admit to having any idea of what conclusion you hope to arrive at in your sojourn in my threads, you tell me so, which means you guys are lost here; so, do the logical thing, first examine your heart and mind strenuously to finally come to know what specifically you want to come to as a conclusion, with your interactions with me, which interactions to date indicate that you are actually lost in my threads.

Please, Neeeel and Aaron, for once do the logical thing, search your heart and mind, and determine what you are driving at for a conclusion you are occupying yourselves to arrive at, with your muddling otherwise muddling about in my threads.

As soon as you come to a specific point relevant to my thread here as also in the other thread from me on God existing or not, post your now well defined focus of concern; otherwise in the meantime, don't write, just read, okay?

My uncle was possessed a few years ago, he said they expected him to puke on at least one priest per day.

That is very good, Flicks, you have come forth from the status of silent majority, to make a contribution of your information on how your uncle though possessed was in possession (pun intended) of his memory faculty to retain recall of the event, on how the gathering witnessing his possession plight expected him puke into the priest once a day.

That is the indication beyond challenge that victims of demon possession are in the status of what is called compos mentis in forensic literature, meaning in functional possession (pun intended) of body and mind and self-control or will power; that is why your uncle could in his recovery recount to you how the crowd surrounding him expected him to puke on at least one priest per day.

Now, get more information from your uncle, and make a list of his assets and liabilities while in demon possession, in addition to his puking prowess, which is both an asset and a liability depending on how he had control or no control over it, i.e. he could puke at will or could not help but puke, the latter is a very uncomfortable even painfully injurious intestinal-gastro-esophageal reflux spasm.



Happy thinking and writing!