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I'm done with the thread. I already told you I didn't feel like doing an OT exegesis on that passage when I know beforehand you will reject it.

Plus you cherrypick the OT and ignore parts you don't understand.

I gave you the best advice I could which is to seek out a true scholar. I already know atheist posters on here don't use bible tools like commentaries and don't know how to identify a bible expert.

LOL @ needing a commentary to see how ****ed up the god of the old testament is.

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06-13-2010 , 05:51 PM

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splendour once again proclaims she's leaving a thread only to return. liar liar pants on fire, imo.

She actually promised to leave the whole forum and never return a long time ago. Only to come back, probably because she has no life elsewhere.

Integrity, the hallmark of a True Christian am i rite?

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06-13-2010 , 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Splendour

I was just watching a very interesting Discovery Channel documentary on killer whales, their intelligence and their variability in hunting techniques based on location and available prey. They hunt in social groups and talk to each other almost constantly. They said it was formerly thought nothing could hunt a great white shark but killer whales can. They figured out a way to drown the great whites by flipping them over. A great white only has instinct. Orcas are the more serious predator because they work cooperatively in groups and have intelligence. At the end they summarized just how sinister intelligence can be. Sinister and powerful compared to mere instinct.

What this ridiculous whale story has to do with god killing innocent egyptian children to make a point I honestly don't know. But I do have a request--can I get some of what you're smoking? Must be might pawrful stuff imo.

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06-13-2010 , 06:16 PM

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Apparently god is the killer whales in that story. We're the sharks.

Ironically, killer whales are one of the only creatures known to kill solely for sport. So I guess her analogy is fairly accurate.

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06-13-2010 , 06:29 PM

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Man, that is like so true when you think about it.

I am gonna go smoke some more and watch some monkeys or something.

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06-13-2010 , 10:51 PM

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So we can learn from and evaluate what is says, but not criticize ("Monday morning quarterback") it. We thus must only approve it? If we don't have an understanding of His knowledge and intent how can we judge whether he's a good God or an evil one?

That depends on whose definition of good and evil you are using. If God's, then He is good by definition. If someone else's definition, then, since our understanding of the knowledge and intent behind God's actions is vanishingly small, we are in no position to judge.

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I take it we are just supposed to accept the killing of innocent children because God says it was the right thing to do. One question one more time: Isn't this exactly what tyrants claim?

Maybe some tyrants do claim that. Tyrants claim all sorts of things.

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06-13-2010 , 11:23 PM

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I don't think God hardened a bunch of male deer

Batair only posts on this forum in hopes of dispelling the 'theists are bad spellers' stereotype.

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06-14-2010 , 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Splendour

You might not have said it in this thread but haven't you said it in other threads. I assumed you did because many, many of the regular atheist posters have said as rize is doing right now in a thread that they'd believe if God showed a miracle right now.

I think God is trying to train the people he can reach to eschew cruelty. He's not cruel but he is powerful and he is sovereign.

I was just watching a very interesting Discovery Channel documentary on killer whales, their intelligence and their variability in hunting techniques based on location and available prey. They hunt in social groups and talk to each other almost constantly. They said it was formerly thought nothing could hunt a great white shark but killer whales can. They figured out a way to drown the great whites by flipping them over. A great white only has instinct. Orcas are the more serious predator because they work cooperatively in groups and have intelligence. At the end they summarized just how sinister intelligence can be. Sinister and powerful compared to mere instinct.

Since God is so far above us I think he figured out a long, long time ago that a pitfall of intelligence is evil and its far better to just be intelligent and benovolent than intelligent and quasi-evil.

That God is all good and all powerful is a concept that is most likely the most socially powerful redeeming quality in all of mankind's history and civilizations. Its a pity you want to portray God as a monster and run counter to the historical view. Seems like a child wanting to get his own way and/or refusing to grow up. Reminds me of Annie Duke who in an interview said as much. She went to Columbia but said she opted to play poker because she didn't want to grow up.

I don't want to portray God in any way. I am simply taking him at his word: what he says in the Bible and what he does in the Bible. He says and does monstrous things, by any reasonable definition of the word "monstrous."

Do we have to resort to namecalling? Surely it is more childish to simply accept without reasoning than to think and analyze.

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