I'm sorry, but everyone keeps dodging this question in the other threads. I'm going to stay on the topic until I get an answer.

Good angels have free will and are 100% good.
Satan and his angels have free will and are 100% bad.

The question Christians must answer to have any credibility on the issue of evil:
Since free will is constant for both types, exactly what is that makes good angels do 100% good and bad angels do 100% bad?

Why should this be any more answerable than what makes one person with free will choose good while another chooses evil in equivalent situations?

No one knows the answers to these sorts of questions. It's a mystery why an atheist would be so persistently interested in them.

can't you just ask god?

This isn't just one of "these sorts of questions", it's the very foundation of the problem of evil. Christians say they have a valid explanation for the PoE. If you feel you don't, you (like bunny) are the exception.

I don't get it either. Angels by their natures are like robots who can only do good so where is their free will to do evil?

Angels, devils, saints... all Christianity appealing to polytheists.

Who says that angels can only do 100% good or 100% bad? I don't recall reading that.

+1 faulty premise in the OP

not to mention that the "free will" you are alluding to is relevant only to man, not God's other creations.

This is funny. Jib misreads/misrepresents my OP and you +1 his post.

I can see we're not going to get anywhere itt.

Then what did you mean by this?

If I misrepresented then correct me, and let me know what you are trying to say.

It might help if you define what you mean by "good" and "bad". Most people have different definitions of those terms in the way that you have used them.

I addressed ur bolded question in my 2nd post. But let me repeat "Free Will" is only applicable to man not all of God's creations.

Satan was created as an angel and was given free will...

And who says all angels are 100% good or 100% bad?

if angels in heaven are not 100% good, they would not be allowed to be in heaven in God's presence. That seems pretty obvious to me knowing God's childish attitudes toward disobedience.

As for satan and his demons, i would say they are not necessarily 100% bad.

Angels in heaven are 100% good angels in hell are 100% bad (I would think) For this reason.

Angels in the beginning did not have God's beatific vision, but they saw much more of God than we saw. Some chose to follow him, follow goodness - these angels are in heaven, with the full beatific vision. Those who have the full beatific vision are completely purified (or they would probably die) and are incapable of sin. Those in heaven are incapable of sin, which is actually the greatest freedom.

Those angels who turned from God turn against everything good. I am not sure if they're incapable of committing good acts but they certainly would not choose to, as that would be for God whom they are rebelling against out of pride. For now they are let free to commit evil actions until the final day when they will all be bound in hell with the damned.

I edited this.

so Jerok, then why doesn't God make Himself as obvious to us puny humans that he does to the angels? Clearly, knowing 100% that God exist still allows people to reject Him, hence there is *no* effect on the free will argument for God to reveal Himself to everyone, thereby putting everyone on an equal playing field.

Guys, asking me for evidence of Biblical mention that angels are only 100% bad or 100% good is ridiculous. All you need is ONE instance of a good angel doing something bad, ONE instance of a bad angel doing something good, or ONE mention of human-like inbetween angels to disprove the premises in my OP. I don't see it.

Oh yeah, and nobody's talking about what angels CAN do. My OP is referring to what they DO do. "Can" is just an assumption being made (like, "well, he could have done otherwise"), and I want to argue against facts, not assumptions.

God makes himself obvious enough that we can follow him if we choose, and less obvious so that we can choose to ignore him if we want.

Angels are completely different beings, with much higher intellect than humans, so what applies to us humans doesn't apply to them in all circumstances.

House,

I still say that you are trying to say that all of God's creations have Free Will as its commonly defined. I disagree with that premise. I wont pretend to know exactly what options are available to angels, but I think they are different that man's. As Knight points out, I dont think imperfect angels would be allowed to be in God's presence.

As far as an example though, Satan himself seems to fit, right? He was in heaven with God so we know he was good and then did evil.

that may be a "reason", but for an all-loving God, it does not excuse his lack of appearance, and using the issue of "free will" doesn't explain it sufficiently. And God, by no means, makes himself "obvious enough", when people who make an honest effort to find Him either find nothing, or find another god instead.

If this was true, then there would be no such thing as fallen angels.

There are facts regarding things angels can do...they are not necessarily baseless assumptions.

lol, gunth u are making his argument for him

I don't think so.

The point is that an angel does not have to necessarily be 100% good. Do you think people that make it into heaven when they die are 100% good? Satan was created as an angel, but fell, due to his freewill to do evil. If he was 100% good, he never would of fell.