Isn't God all powerful?


If that's the case then why does he at least not see if humans can grasp it? No attempt has been made. Also I don't buy it, seems like a cop out.

I did not claim that.


He could of just created it so nobody does evil!

Agreed and even stubbed toes are a bitch.


Maybe, how would one tell though?

One last thing you talked about why not suffer for a few more decades so that one can live eternally? How would the person know you are telling the truth? You might come to the human every lifetime with the same BS. Suffer a few more decades and then you will live eternally. The human might be on his 100th lifetime, just hearing a computer saying the same **** every time.

SuperMario, sorry for whatever your personal troubles you or your loved one are having. Not much else to say.

Maybe she is. Maybe she isn't interventionist or very selective about it.

Seems like an argument from incredulity.

That was originally posted by you and escaped the quote brackets.

Does this still allow for free will? How?

My life isn't so bad. Not perfect but I'd gladly take it all over again.

This life is more than ordinary
Can I get 2 maybe even 3 of these

apparently God told some woman I don't know to tell me Jesus loves me

why doesn't he tell me himself instead of sending his silly minions?

if he's omniscient he has my email address

You bring up free will, which I want to address.

Question: Will God allow me into heaven if I do NOT believe in God or Jesus?

I think your answer will be NO,he will not let me in. As one has to accept Jesus as your savior and let God in your heart blah blah.

In that case you can logically say that free will does not exist. You can say that God does not allow for free will. You either play by his rules or you don't get in.

How is that free will?

That's not what free will means.

Edit: To the best of my knowledge there is no consensus among Christian denominations what it takes to get into heaven. I can only assume if you add Muslim or Jewish conceptions into the mix the issue becomes even muddier.

You can get into heaven without believing in God under some versions of Christianity. Christian universalism.

Because God's language is love, not speech or prose. If you are deaf to love, you will be deaf to God.

This God you speak of, he is not all knowing? He creates us deaf to him? Then blames us that we can't hear him? Gotcha!!!

Don't you have to acknowledge Jesus as your savior?

If you do not acknowledge God, how does that work?

I have not read this but that would probably be the best thing for me. I would really not want to associate with such a flawed and disgusting creature that calls itself God.

Also I hear a lot of christians spout if you do not accepts jesus as your lord and savior then you will go to hell. So who's right?

Where does it state that you don't have to believe in God?

Edit ok,I found it. It does state that, but then I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_reconciliation

Here it states that the Christian religion rejects it.

There are varying conceptions among Christians who will go to hell, what hell actually is or if it even exists. What is the purpose of your question? Do you want me to be the final arbiter of who's right? Will you have gained some great insight if you hear my personal view?



(bolded mine)

Matthew 19
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

Omnipotence or omniscience is not incompatible with God creating entities with free will. Who then make their own choices. Indeed, the world must be such.

It would be a dick move by God though

For you id imagine which ever one fits the narrative you are selling.

Because there's never been a kid who has ignored what their parent was saying. It's obviously the parent's fault.

Why would it be a dick move? I truly don't understand. Giving creatures free will, which greatly enriches creation, entails that some of them will do evil things and turn away from them.

I think anyone who believes in the god of Christianity & Jesus cannot claim to be a competent big-picture thinker (with some excuse given for childhood/social indoctrination, which is powerful), but still. If you're going to argue against it at least use sensible arguments. A God radiating love but creating free will such that people can turn against that is exactly what a world with a God would look like.

I misread your notion of God, my objection was to a God that would reward or punish you in the afterlife while providing little or no evidence of his existence.

what is free will?

doesn't everyone act according to their nature?

if my actions are determined by things inside me, what exactly is "free" and how could I have acted other than how I did?

if there was an alternative to determinism and randomness, why would we even want it?

Why do we never hear about someone going up to a random person and saying, "God told me to have sex with you and procreate"? These intrusive Divine Commands never seem to go any further than talking.

That's all fine and dandy until you are on the bad end of that situation. I mean is that what you tell a victim of rape or torment? Is that what they should be dealing with because God thought it was a good idea to enhance us with such people?