I would be too if I had so many haters.

Wow that's epic, that's just epic

Yeah quite amazing that she does not see the irony.

No, not if you make the clear distinction between 'Homosexual the person' and 'Homosexual act.'

Paul, on the other hand, says all Homosexuals and effeminate are going to hell. Homophobic, imo.

the conservative interpretation of the Bible is that it is anti-homosexual. There are numerous scholars who believe this to be a poor translation. Also, apparently the Bible has positive gay characters. (they don't teach this in most churches!)

There have been numerous threads on this over the years which you could search for. Also, the site religioustolerance.org always outlines both sides of the argument for just about any religious/cultural issue. If you search that sight you can find decent representation of both sides of the debate. As usual, you'll find that its not as clear as many like to pretend it is.

mmm saul slain thousands but david kissed his son and wept with him loving him more than you can love any woman mmm and that's why he's the perfect man

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

Strange how they ignore the "put to death" part but keep the rest. It's like they're... it's like they're picking and choosing the parts of the Bible they want to keep!

nah with all the abraham religions, it's decided that the later stuff overrules the early stuff when there is a contradiction and apparently in luke jesus says "forgive everything" whereas with islam it's the other way around

Yeah I know, the whole Jesus thing 'n all.

But still, isn't it crazy that so many people thing it's wrong to sex up a dude because it says so in some book? However, I guess it's also crazy that people think that book is the divine inspiration of God because like... uh yeah, remind me why they think that again?

I feel the same way. I was at one point against gay adoption for the same sort of reasons. But could it be that a stable gay home (and we must assume that after going through the process professionals would determine this to be true) could possibly be worse than what that child would go through if not adopted? I just don't see how one could answer yes to this.

Looking at it from a "christian" perspective, is it worse than growing up in a home with greedy parents? Or a mother that gossips? Or probably the gravest sin in the bible, one that does not take care of the poor? Where is the fight to keep these people from adopting? I think that bothers me the most about this issue (from the "christian" side of things anyway).

That's quite interesting, you don't see that perspective argued much. It is inconsistent to argue against one form of 'sinner' being allowed to adopt, but not against other kinds.

Really good post.

+1

You see it really only from the Christian side debating against the more militant, if you will, christians. It amazes me actually how few atheists (and other religions opposing christians on various topics) use christian logic/morals against various christian agendas.

The entire "gay issue" is riddled with inconsistencies from a christian perspective. If you listen to people like Greg Boyd he brings them up time and time again.