**Note: This is not a debate thread. It is informational in nature. A place to locate and look at biblical archaeology.

A video on the progress of the ancient Hebrews out of Egypt. Some people think there are no traces of their exodus but there are.

This video shows Jabal al lawz. The most likely candidate for Mount Sinai:

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/mt__sinai_found.htm

I am including a link to David Rohl's site for people to investigate. David Rohl holds a degree in Egyptology and Ancient history from London's University College.

Rohl in his book Pharoahs and Kings identifies the Israelite city of Goshen in Egypt and also documents the names Jacob, Joseph, Issachar and Asher in ancient Egypt.

He has also proposed a New Chronology for the Egyptian Pharoahs dating the Exodus around 1447 B.C.

http://www.davidrohl.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exo...cal_evaluation

Here's the expert comparing models:
http://www.davidrohl.com/nc_versus_oc_37.html

Currently Rohl's thesis is new and therefore radical.

He is revising the historical interpretation of the stratigraphy of the Middle and Late Bronze Ages and the later Iron I and II.

I see the expert has decided to make a personal website which talks of him in the 3rd person, and it even provides links to his musical releases.

Good stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chr...unter-evidence

get a blog splenda

Thanks for the thread bumps.

More info from Bob Cornuke (an independent biblical researcher's site) that corresponds with the OP video.
http://www.bobcornuke.com/content/mount-sinai

Paul wrote in Galatians 4:25, “Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia" .

Finding places listed in the bible can be challenging as geographical/political boundaries have changed over time. For example Midian was a part of Egypt in the time of Moses but is now a part of Saudi Arabia. It appears Paul knew it because he said Hagar stands for Mt. Sinai. Hagar was also the mother that the 12 tribes of Arabia trace back to through Ishmael.

Just for kicks and to see the names of the 12 Tribes of Ishmael:
http://nabataea.net/12tribes.html

The Founding Nations Chart:
http://nabataea.net/foundingnations.html

Do they sell their music off their websites as well?

I dunno...I clicked one of the music links and the music was interesting..exotically foreign and all that....

its interesting how the level of dialogue has changed from what it was the last few weeks. What could be different?

After reading more of Collins summary of Rohl's work I was able to locate online some info on execration texts. Rohl in his book Pharoahs and Kings writes of 2 Egyptian execration texts that were found with prominent biblical names on them:

"The first is the appearance of the name Yakkub which is clearly the biblical name Jacob, father of Joseph and former head of the Hebrew tribe of Abraham. The second, amazingly enough, is the non-Egyptian names of Joseph himself...Scholars immediately recognized that the "Ishpi" featured in the Execration Texts was the name "Yaseph (Joseph/Yusef).

Archaeological Evidence for the Exodus:
http://www.evidenceforchristianity.o...k=view&id=3672

wiki explanation:
Execration texts, also referred to as Proscription Lists,[1] are ancient Egyptian hieratic texts, listing enemies of the Pharaoh, most often enemies of the Egyptian state or troublesome foreign neighbors.[2] The texts were most often written upon statuettes of bound foreigners, bowls, or blocks of clay or stone, which were subsequently destroyed. The ceremonial process of breaking the names and burying them was intended to be a sort of sympathetic magic that would affect the persons or entities named in the texts. The fragments were usually placed near tombs or ritual sites. This practice was most common during times of conflict with the Asiatic neighbours of Egypt.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execration_Texts

Translation: Please allow me to spam these ridiculous links without questioning me.

This is an informational thread. Items of interest for people to look at. I'm learning about them myself as I go along.

I just learned the word execration text about 2 days ago from a book I am reading.

I had no idea until recently that ancient Egyptians levied curses on people in stone then broke the stones to bring the curse on them.

I am interested in Ancient Egypt stuff so if there are any links that have nothing to do with the Bible please state.

Although I reckon the whole old/new testament is like some progressed adaption of Ancient Egyptian folklore.

They liked their hocus pocus.

This is a good line.

Did you ever read the theory Jesus, during his missing years, learned his hocus pocus from the Egyptians?

A non-biblical site about ancient Egypt. I was trying to find pics of the Jacob execration text and I came across this site:

The Ancient Egypt Site
http://www.ancient-egypt.org/index.html

For anyone interested, in the book "The Origins and Empire of Ancient Israel", Steven Collins explains the Phoenician/Israelite connection. The ancient Phoenicians guarded a secret route to copper minds that he says are found in North America predating the discovery of the New World by hundreds and hundreds of years.

In Bronze Age America the late Dr. Barry Fell, Professor Emeritus of Harvard University shows that copper trading between North America and the Old World existed prior to the the time of King David.

An excerpt from Dr. Fell's book:

"There are also...reasons for thinking that ancient European voyagers came to America. They concern the mining of metals.

For the past twenty years leading mining engineers and university metallurgists have been seeking from archaeologists an explanation of a most baffling mystery in the history of mining technology. So far no answer has been found.

Around the northern shore of Lake Superior, and on the adjacent Ile Royale, there are approximately 5,000 ancient copper mine workings. In 1953 and 1956 Prof. Drier led two Michigan Mining and Technology expeditions to the sites. Charcoal found at the bases of the ancient mining pits yielded radiocarbon dates indicating that the mines had been operated between 2,000 B.C. and 1,000 B.C....The most conservative estimates by mining engineers show that at least 500 million pounds of metallic copper were removed over that time span, and there is no evidence as to what became of it."- end quote

Dr. Fell is an authority on epigraphy (which is the study of inscriptions).

Collins devotes a chapter to the relationship between the ancient Israelites and the Phoenicians and further develops the idea that much of the copper mined must have went to building the Temple in Israel because it is likely to be the only building at that time that required huge sources of copper and King David during his reign stockpiled supplies for the building of the temple of God (cf. 1 Chronicles 29:2)

Some further information on the copper mining by Walter Baucum:
http://www.uhcg.org/Lost-10-Tribes/walt3b-Phonecia.html

I'm sorry what? The phoenicians were in North America?

The Norse colonized North America, and in particular the areas near the great lakes around the 10th century AD

Dr. Barry Fell was a marine biologist. He is not an authority on epigraphy. He was certainly not respected concerning epigraphy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Fell#Epigraphy

Yes everyone knows about Leif Erickson and the Vikings but I don't know if they mined. They were Vikings. Afaik Vikings spent a lot of time marauding though I suppose its possible they engaged in mining. The Phoenicians on the other hand were into trading and major commerce through shipping.

Collins outlines the alliance between the Phoenicians and the Israelite kingdoms of David and Solomon. He also discusses that the Phoenicians intermixed with the ancient Hebrews. The King Hiram mentioned in connection with the building of the Temple in the bible is a Phoenician king and a great friend and ally of David's.

Fell was a pioneer. Modern epigraphy built on his work.

"Despite my occasional harsh criticism of Fell's treatment of individual inscriptions, it should be recognized that without Fell's work there would be no [North American] ogham problem to perplex us. We need to ask not only what Fell has done wrong in his epigraphy, but also where we have gone wrong as archaeologists in not recognizing such an extensive European presence in the New World." - quote from MB's link by David H. Kelley, an archaeologist at the University of Calgary

To elaborate further. Fell was one of the main founders of The Epigraphic Society.

http://www.epigraphy.org/History.htm

I suppose he's no more controversial than Darwin. Darwin's work has been revised several times and nobody disputes he was an authority on evolution.