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Old 08-18-2010, 10:23 AM   #1
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Biblical Archaeology

**Note: This is not a debate thread. It is informational in nature. A place to locate and look at biblical archaeology.

A video on the progress of the ancient Hebrews out of Egypt. Some people think there are no traces of their exodus but there are.

This video shows Jabal al lawz. The most likely candidate for Mount Sinai:

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/mt__sinai_found.htm
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:55 PM   #2
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I am including a link to David Rohl's site for people to investigate. David Rohl holds a degree in Egyptology and Ancient history from London's University College.

Rohl in his book Pharoahs and Kings identifies the Israelite city of Goshen in Egypt and also documents the names Jacob, Joseph, Issachar and Asher in ancient Egypt.

He has also proposed a New Chronology for the Egyptian Pharoahs dating the Exodus around 1447 B.C.

http://www.davidrohl.com/
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exo...cal_evaluation
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Old 08-18-2010, 06:23 PM   #4
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Here's the expert comparing models:
http://www.davidrohl.com/nc_versus_oc_37.html

Currently Rohl's thesis is new and therefore radical.

He is revising the historical interpretation of the stratigraphy of the Middle and Late Bronze Ages and the later Iron I and II.
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Here's the expert comparing models:
http://www.davidrohl.com/nc_versus_oc_37.html

Currently Rohl's thesis is new and therefore radical.

He is revising the historical interpretation of the stratigraphy of the Middle and Late Bronze Ages and the later Iron I and II.
I see the expert has decided to make a personal website which talks of him in the 3rd person, and it even provides links to his musical releases.

Good stuff.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:59 AM   #6
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In 2010 a series of radiocarbon dates were published for dynastic Egypt which suggest some minor revisions to the conventional chronology, but falsify Rohl's proposed New Chronology. The work of conventional scholarship has been independently corroborated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chr...unter-evidence
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get a blog splenda
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:34 AM   #8
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Thanks for the thread bumps.

More info from Bob Cornuke (an independent biblical researcher's site) that corresponds with the OP video.
http://www.bobcornuke.com/content/mount-sinai

Paul wrote in Galatians 4:25, “Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia" .

Finding places listed in the bible can be challenging as geographical/political boundaries have changed over time. For example Midian was a part of Egypt in the time of Moses but is now a part of Saudi Arabia. It appears Paul knew it because he said Hagar stands for Mt. Sinai. Hagar was also the mother that the 12 tribes of Arabia trace back to through Ishmael.

Just for kicks and to see the names of the 12 Tribes of Ishmael:
http://nabataea.net/12tribes.html

The Founding Nations Chart:
http://nabataea.net/foundingnations.html

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Do they sell their music off their websites as well?
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:46 AM   #10
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Do they sell their music off their websites as well?
I dunno...I clicked one of the music links and the music was interesting..exotically foreign and all that....
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its interesting how the level of dialogue has changed from what it was the last few weeks. What could be different?
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:09 PM   #12
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After reading more of Collins summary of Rohl's work I was able to locate online some info on execration texts. Rohl in his book Pharoahs and Kings writes of 2 Egyptian execration texts that were found with prominent biblical names on them:

"The first is the appearance of the name Yakkub which is clearly the biblical name Jacob, father of Joseph and former head of the Hebrew tribe of Abraham. The second, amazingly enough, is the non-Egyptian names of Joseph himself...Scholars immediately recognized that the "Ishpi" featured in the Execration Texts was the name "Yaseph (Joseph/Yusef).

Archaeological Evidence for the Exodus:
http://www.evidenceforchristianity.o...k=view&id=3672

wiki explanation:
Execration texts, also referred to as Proscription Lists,[1] are ancient Egyptian hieratic texts, listing enemies of the Pharaoh, most often enemies of the Egyptian state or troublesome foreign neighbors.[2] The texts were most often written upon statuettes of bound foreigners, bowls, or blocks of clay or stone, which were subsequently destroyed. The ceremonial process of breaking the names and burying them was intended to be a sort of sympathetic magic that would affect the persons or entities named in the texts. The fragments were usually placed near tombs or ritual sites. This practice was most common during times of conflict with the Asiatic neighbours of Egypt.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execration_Texts
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**Note: This is not a debate thread. It is informational in nature. A place to locate and look at biblical archaeology.
Translation: Please allow me to spam these ridiculous links without questioning me.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:33 PM   #14
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Translation: Please allow me to spam these ridiculous links without questioning me.
This is an informational thread. Items of interest for people to look at. I'm learning about them myself as I go along.

I just learned the word execration text about 2 days ago from a book I am reading.

I had no idea until recently that ancient Egyptians levied curses on people in stone then broke the stones to bring the curse on them.
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I am interested in Ancient Egypt stuff so if there are any links that have nothing to do with the Bible please state.

Although I reckon the whole old/new testament is like some progressed adaption of Ancient Egyptian folklore.

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They liked their hocus pocus.
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