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07-30-2015 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by neeeel
It seems quite handy that you can just define words however you want them ( "eg song = knowing something by heart, not a definition I have ever heard before) in order to support what you are claiming.
Well you're still not even sure you exist, so I'm not too worried about convincing you.

Last edited by Herbavorus_Rex; 07-30-2015 at 06:42 PM.
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07-30-2015 , 06:56 PM
One could go the route of Websters def for song:

6 a : a habitual or characteristic manner

and my point to infer the old and new covenants are a harmonious synthesis still works:

Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.


a habitual or characteristic manner - as in "We've heard that song and dance before, so save it for someone else"

Is that so different from - "yea, we've heard your argument and know it by heart...etc?"
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08-01-2015 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Aaron W.
If movies aren't real, why do continuity mistakes matter?

Because the existence of such things impacts the understanding of the information being presented.
Terrible analogy, as any attempt at an analogy must necessarily be. Your authoritative holy book should not be comparable to anything else, even by analogy.
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08-04-2015 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rig Astley
How do you feel right now, realizing how much precious lifetime you wasted?
haha I def don't feel like I wasted any time. I was taught how to truly subjectively study any ancient text or belief system. I wasn't talk to believe the bible in school. Instead I was taught hermenuetics and how to subjectively perform an exegesis of any ancient text and discover its true intended meaning. I think most undergraduate programs in America are nothing short of a joke. Science majors get taught a decent amount of ever changing bullshyt (Reason science textbooks have to be rewritten every 5 years..."oh guess we were wrong about that lol?), history majors get lied to about almost every historical event (America wasn't built on genocide and slavery - The Civil war was a war based on freeing black people and abe lincoln wasnt a racist). Seems like half inventors listed in american textsbooks actually stole that their inventions from some german or serbian dude who invented it 3 months earlier. I mean shyt don't we have like 7 states that are the birth place of aviation? My biblical studies degree prepped me to do my own research, gain understanding on/get to the bottom of a highly debated/important topic that most people in the world are totally ignorant and clueless about. I sleep well at night.

Last edited by Ace Acumen; 08-05-2015 at 12:09 AM.
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08-05-2015 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by neeeel
It seems quite handy that you can just define words however you want them ( "eg song = knowing something by heart, not a definition I have ever heard before) in order to support what you are claiming.
Context defines words not us. If I said "Man that cheeseburger changed my life" it could mean that after eating it I changed the direction of my life ie opened a burger restaurant or left my wife to raise grass fed cattle. But most likely it just meant that I really enjoyed the cheeseburger. You couldn't know for sure without looking closer at me and the context in which I said it.
If you are unfamiliar with the correlation between songs and knowing something by heart it is bc you are a 20th century western individual with CDs, Laptops, radios, and pandora. Pretty ignorant. How would you know a song if you were a first century Jew if you didn't know if by heart? How could you sing it if you didn't know if by heart? Archaeological and written data have demonstrated clearly that music was an integral part of daily life in ancient Israel/Palestine. These songs were actually a big part of the day to day culture of the time. So people sang these songs, often the same songs, over and over again sometimes passing them down from generation to generation. So imagery of a "new song" would stick out to a first century Jew. New songs were not as common and a new song would only have been created to capture/express an important "NEW" emotion/experience/feeling by the person creating it (not something passed down from the previous generations).

But w/o knowing context behind the text one would completely misinterpret what this person wrote and tried to express.

Last edited by Ace Acumen; 08-05-2015 at 03:42 AM.
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08-05-2015 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace Acumen
Science majors get taught a decent amount of ever changing bullshyt (Reason science textbooks have to be rewritten every 5 years..."oh guess we were wrong about that lol?
Thank God science is not like religion when it comes to change...
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08-05-2015 , 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Thank God science is not like religion when it comes to change...
I def can't comment on religion as I am not religious. But yes the ancient text has never changed. Science text has
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08-05-2015 , 01:36 PM
Yup knowledge about science and the texts change...the horror.
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08-05-2015 , 02:20 PM
nothing wrong with it changing/improving just present it in an objective manor. They are drawing hypothesis upon hypothesis upon hypothesis and then they present it as fact. I believe an individual presenting religion as fact is just a plain ignorant idiot. And I treat many scientists and science teachers with the same regard. That being said I love science and think it is an amazing thing (i completed 6 months of a graduate program in biology), and so are the ancient texts left behind to us by previous generations. I don't think its so much about science/religion...its about having an objective mind.

Last edited by Ace Acumen; 08-05-2015 at 02:29 PM.
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08-05-2015 , 11:57 PM
Fair enough.

It was just that what i quoted didn't seem to science friendly when it comes to science correcting itself and changing. I think that it does that is a good thing.
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08-11-2015 , 01:02 AM
Herb,

Can you speak more to the reincarnation dynamic you've referenced a few times?
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