Not really. Perhaps you're using the word pride differently then everyone else?

I don't. I'm not talking down to theists. I'm talking down to someone who refuses to attempt even a modicum of reading comprehension.

Again, if you could read you would see that you're wrong again. (Surprise!) Becacuse he did point out that you didn't answer his question. I even quoted for you where he pointed out that you didn't address his question. If you could read like the rest of us you would realize this and not continue to look so foolish. f you would like, we could search the forum and find that very regularly people point out that you can't answer questions.

Are you saying this to just get us to quote you more for laughs?

Of course your religion is a religion. I should clarify, I mean when you use the word how most people do. I know if the splenda world that words mean whatever she decides they mean.

Yep... its a religion and you've proven once again that even simple words you use everyday flummox you.

And the usual psychobabble that has no real relevence to the discussion. End result - She still hasn't answered the question but we've all been given more quotes to store in the book of splendour.

"My religion isn't a religion" Perfect!

Next time take a look at the NT. Jesus decried religion because he was The Truth and every other religion was just a distracting belief system or weak carbon copy trying to compete with the Truth and there by deny people the ability to obtain the way, the truth and the life.

I don't take the world's definition of religion as equaling Jesus' definition of The Truth.

That would be to concede to the deception imposed by the ruler of this world aka the prince of the power of the air aka Beezlebub aka Lucifer...etc...he has a long list of aliases and he likes to play semantics (word games) and confuse people.

That is unrelated to what Hopey was saying (as far as I can tell). You can see how those bolded statements he quoted contradict each other, right?

Once again you seem to have no ability to classify things correctly. Surprisingly even when its pointed out that you're making a mistake, you'll repeat it endlessly. Its surprising you have such a positive reputation.

I don't target them because they're theists. I target them because of the quality of their posts. (btw- I've complimented Pletho repeatedly.) Here for instance I keep pointing out that you can't answer simple questions. It has nothing to do with your theism. Most of the criticisms I see (and make) aren't because you're a theist.

I noticed you ignored the part where I pointed out that Big Perm stated that you didn't answer the question. I don't know if that's becuase you're too prideful or dishonest to acknowledge you were wrong or if this is just another product of your lack of reading comprehension?


Surprise... circular reasoning. The fact that jesus said he was the truth doesn't answer the question as to why that should hold more value then other religions who also say they're the truth.

Just save us time and admit this goes over your head.

This is nonsensical and doesn't answer the question. I think I get it now... you are incapable of answering even the simplest question. Since you can't answer questions with a meaningful answer you simply post an endless list of random thoughts bouncing around in the echo chamber above your neck hoping no one will notice that you never answer any questions. Unfortunately, we've all noticed.

No. The question has nothing to do satan. No one is playing word games here. Its a very simple question. Blaming your inability to answer questions on satan is pretty funny though.

I'll answer for her.

You still haven't answered my question. You just rattle off crap that has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.

What point didn't I address?

I'll try to address it later though....I have to sign off for a while. Thanks.

We're done.

As usual you got high toned like you're the ultimate judge of everything.

The point I made was sublime. I doubt an atheist could get it but every theist on the board most likely did.

On doctrine Jesus is authoritative not the world....Nice little switcheroo you tried to pull though then cover your tracks with follow up wordy posts...

you may be done but that doesn't mean we can't still point out the endless parade of fail in your posts.

only because, as usual, your responses don't answer questions, show a profound disrespect for the English language, are condescending, illiterate, erroneous, you misrepresent people and ideas and, to top it off, are littered with non sequitors.

fwiw- my reaction to your posts seems fairly standard to how most people respond to you. Maybe there's a reason for that?

tee hee. I love when you get condescending to people and generalize especially right after complaining that others are getting high and mighty. Pretty standard splenda - hypocrite to the end.

The point you made wasn't sublime.. it was nonsensical and idiotic. I doubt you would get it but most of the people who are sane and aren't challenged to think rationally and can follow a conversation most likely would.

NO ONE WAS DISCUSSING DOCTRINE. That's the conversation that was taking place in your head but nowhere else. Further proof you have no reading comprehension whatsoever. It couldn't hurt for you to take some ESL classes or something.

Its scary that you talk about all the books you read... and yet you regularly demonstrate that you can't process what you read. I can only imagine how different what it is that you read and how it resides in your brain.

There was an episode of 'Pinky and the Brain' where you got to hear Pinky's internal dialog, so when Brain asks the inevitable 'Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering' question, Pinky's response seems perfectly logical, although completely inappropriate to actual conversation at hand.

I wish we could do this with Splendour. I think we're missing out on about 90% of the conversation.

I think it would be interesting to see. I agree that I have no doubt in her mind there must be some logical progression between what she reads and the eventual answer she types in her response. But there's no way one could figure out what's going on just by reading her posts. There's a unique logic processor in her mind that's adding information in between the lines of what she reads that no one else is privvy to.

My father sometimes does this: You run into him and you're not having a conversation. He starts with, "You're right.... argument/statement" When he says "you're right", its because he's begun the conversation with you in his head before you've actually contributed. In his mind, he has articulate what he thinks your point of view on something is. And he begins his response as if you've already commented on what he's talking about. I know he's often extrapolating what he thinks your position is based on previous conversations. And you can sometimes figure out where he's coming from. But its always disorienting and it takes a minute to process what the hell he's talking about.

I think this is kind of true for Splenda. There's a whole level of dialogue that happens in her head where the coversation make veer off onto a related topic in her mind. Perhaps this explains why so often her responses seem only tangentally related to what she's responding too.

I can't believe how much I just wrote on this.

sidenote: Love Pinky and the Brain. My oldest kid is 3 and 1/2. He's just getting old enough where he prefers story cartoons over things like Go Diego Go or Dora the Explorer. I'm looking forward to enjoying Pinky & The Brain with him. Parenthood has hidden advantages like license to enjoy old cartoons!

You're just being deliberately obtuse as usual. The thread isn't about me or the way I process things.

My point which totally went over your head was that when you use a worldly definition to define Jesus' Truth it isn't even doctrinally accurate by a believer's standards and if you're trying to define Christianity you are engaging in a doctrinal activity.

So your argument is totally off.

The Church is the Bride of Christ....that is a relational position.

Religion is just a word you use to describe other groups' practices. When you apply it to Christianity it is a misnomer.

The Jews of the OT were under a theocratic government until the arrival of Jesus during the Roman Empire period. So what was the distinguishing condition or difference between Jesus and the old system: the advent of the Holy Spirit into the world. It changed the religion substantially. It changed the religion so substantially that it was no longer a religion any more but spirituality. It even reduced the law down to 2 commandments from 613 mitzvots because things are simplified when you can avail yourself of the Holy Spirit and walk in it.

The typical religious hoi polloi argument that atheists think they are clever mounting "Oh which religion is right?" rests on this definition you pick up from the world and attempt to force on Christianity. But that's a misconception.

Christianity is the Truth because Jesus was the Way, the Truth and the Life.

When you have the truth why waste your time investigating other claims? If you do you can never learn about the way and the life because you just wasted the time you needed to acquire the way and the life barking up wrong trees.

To you reasonable/rational=obtuse.

Every thread you're in ecomes about how you process (or don't process) things.

Its about your inability to stay on topic or answer very simple questions without going off on endless tangents.

Nope. This is you blathering nonsense because you can't answer a simple question.

nope. Completely accurate. And I'm only one of dozens of people who regularly point out your inability to answer simple questions.

aah. Its your new comment that you read that you liked that you will now post repeatedly even though it has no bearing on the coversation. Splendour word vomit.

Wrong. Just because you want to redefine words doesn't make it correct. Christianity is a religion. Sorry. You're wrong again. Look at the definition (let me know if you have trouble understanding the words) and you'll see it fits your beliefs to a T.

more splendour word vomit. Who cares. Has nothing to do with the topic.

nope. The question is perfectly valid. The problem is asking the question to someone whose brain doesn't process things like normal people.

Zeus is the Truth because Zeus was the Way, the Truth and the Life. WHEEEEEE! Its easy to be like splenda. Doesn't require any thinking.

This is not an argument. This is an assertion based in cirular reasoning. Try again.

Classic ignorant statement and a non answer. I'll take that as further affirmation that you can't answer it. Thanks

I suggest you and kurto stay out of my threads then because neither one of you appear to have mastered the art of asking someone what they mean and or of asking them to re-state their answer.

You could take lessons from bunny who is pretty good at it but then he's a civilized guy and doesn't go off on posters at the drop of a hat.

I would agree Splendour that you fail to see the meanings of many words and how they don't just mean what you specify to them. I have done it in the past (e.g.I presumed atheist and agnostic were incompatable states); and bulit arguments from it.
If you have a separate understanding of a word, or a different one, you can't implant it into what others are understanding. When you talk of the difference between religion being a word to describe other words as the truth you are implanting your meaning to the questions kurto had, which completely altered the arguments as you then demonstrated (with some pretty faulty thinking, but kurto has gone over that.)

I think you should check out the following links for brief summaries of these things-
phenomenology is the study of experience and what I think you use to claim experiences of God.
Wittgenstein pretty much is a god of language
A bit of an introduction to knowledge

You always post links. These one's are pretty good. Also they are summaries not arguments so don't worry about that
I don't see how you can just ignore this splenda. Surely in your head you see yourself different to followers of Zeus. Can you actually explain your rational thought process?


From splenda-
Have you never been wrong before Splendour? Knowledge is a state independent of belief. It is impossible to know you know something without pride.
You can rationally believe something based on logic, and it might be the truth and you therefore know it, however your belief is not knowledge. By being closed minded you reject a greater understanding of your own belief and a greater organisation of belief in your mind. I'm sure you, or maybe some other Christians have said blind faith, just believing for believing, isn't the best way to be a Christian; and by closing your mind you do this