I knew it. At last some sanity. "I'm an atheist" is not an excuse.


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013...?utm_hp_ref=uk

A british atheist invokes her "lifelong spiritual/religious beliefs"? o_O

Atheists can of course be both religious and spiritual. What's with the question mark and o_O?

I don't see the connection between your thread title and this post (and its links). Would you care to explain in more depth what it is you are trying to convey?

If that article is accurate, it's quite frightening. If the CIS are right that only "religious-based objections" to violence are valid (ironic to say the least), what does that imply? That atheists can't be moral? That only the religious can be moral? Does that apply to all religions or just christianity?

What if I had a moral objection to religiously inspired violence?

And now you did the same thing as Cwocwoc... how do you two go from the linked article to "atheists can't be moral"?

I'm genuinely curious to hear the steps in the thought process.

cwocwoc you are an atheist, so does that mean you are immoral?

Actually I'm not sure how that crept in, maybe I was influenced by the thread title even though I thought I was completely ignoring it. Or it might be overspill from a different debate and nothing to do with either the thread title or the article, just my annoyance at the theists who DO believe that atheists can't be moral or that religions have some claim on morality. Sigh.

I'll go back to my corner.

True. Nvm.

I second tame deuces's post. There's no obvious interpretation between the article and your post. Literally not a single thing you posted can I infer from the link and your post.

What did you know that's now been confirmed?
What is the sanity you referenced that was missing before?
"I'm an atheist" is not an excuse for what?

Not sure what is more disturbing, this article or cwocwoc's thoughts/posts.

Lol OP and lol USGov. This was pretty common though. Back in the day only religious objections counted for conscientious objector status until 1965.

Pffft, he's a British atheist, or something.

I rejected any specific God not right and wrong. I still try to lead a good life. Too many atheists become Satan's little helpers. Satan must be very happy.

It is good that the negativity of atheism is seen for what it is by the US Citizenship and Immigration Services

Wait, but you have stated that you are an atheist, I can look up the post if you like? So youre an atheist, but you think its atheism is full of negativity?

Youre an atheist, but you believe in satan?

And how do you decide how to live a good life? ( I know , weve been through this before, but you still havent explained it).

And, if you are an atheist, and say that you live a moral life, then your statement that atheists cant live moral lives is wrong...

Are you for real? This is kinda insane.

Of course atheism is negative. It's disbelief in something (God). I believe in evil so I believe in satan figuratively. You can lead a good life by following the Bible, Koran etc. Most atheists reject religious principles and morals and replace it with hedonism.

The best kind.

I disbelieve a lot of things. I must be terribly negative.

Obv geographical location doesn't matter but the original Humanist Manifesto was rather spoilt by the later American version.

So disbelief is always negative?


How do you know that following the bible/koran is leading a good life?


cite? source?

Wasn't aware the British were "best" at anything other than blowing penalty kicks (and knocking down pints, ldo) ...

You're thinking of English here.

Although the pints part probably applies to the whole UK...

That's a first... I've never met an atheist that believes in Satan.

No wonder your every post seems a confusing mess to me.

Just so we know that you're not just making up stupid stuff. Please show your work. That is... you say most atheists replace morals with hedonism. Let's ignore the fact that one is not the opposite of the other, please demonstrate some sort of proof that most atheists are hedonistic. A good quality study will suffice.

Also- The statement "Of course atheism is negative. It's disbelief in something (God)." is, of course (by design) incredibly stupid. Christians don't believe in Zeus... therefore Christians are negative? LOL I'm pretty sure everyone disbelieves something... by your definition, everyone is negative. Thereby making your use of the word 'negative' relatively meaningless.

Evil and Satan are not really the same. And Satan is merely a character specific to abrahamic religions. One can have a concept of evil without any knowledge or reference to Satan.

Can we all agree that Cwoc is just trolling?