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Originally Posted by neeeel
I suppose its possible to look at nearly all, if not all, interactions as exchanges of value, service, or goods. Are you wanting to restrict to a particular set?
You tell me. You're the one trying to establish a definition. You now have two attempts:
1) Economics is
also free, uncoerced, interpersonal interaction and relationships. (I don't see the word "also" as being relevant, but I left it there in case you need it for some reason.
2) The study of uncoerced and coerced interactions between people
I have asked you a question about your definition. I want you to tell me what you are using the word "economics" to mean.
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Just because you have laid out a framework, and then claimed its force, doesnt make it so. You are free to do that, and make your case, which I dont think you have done ( I guess I may have missed it) . That is, you have asserted that its force, but not why it is force.
I'm still waiting for you to give me a definition of economics to work with. Any reasonable definition will lend itself to the concept of economic forces. Which I think is why you're refusing to give a reasonable definition.
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Force, to me , is physical force or violence, or the credible threat of physical force or violence. It is action, not inaction. refusal to give someone water is not force.
Let's say I build an airtight bubble around you. At this point, I'm no longer actively restraining you inside the bubble. Your restraint within the bubble is purely passive based on past activities.
You won't get fresh air unless you pay me $100. Have I forced you to buy air from me?
Does anything change if someone else built the bubble and now I'm just standing there with the ability to release you but am witholding action? What if I work for the person who built the bubble?
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If you are going to class that as force, you are going to have to class everything as force, if you refuse to give me money, you are using force. If you refuse to give me a job, you are using force, etc
No, this is just bad use of language. Much in the same way that you've gone from saying that "economics doesn't exist" to "everything is economics" you're refusing to allow meaningful labels to be applied by taking an all-or-nothing approach.