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09-01-2010, 06:04 PM
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#91
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
The argument that 16k game contacts are unfair is retarded. There are loads of backers out there willing to stake, and a horse is free to go to every one and try and get the best deal. If a 16k game contract is the best they can get then there must be a reason behind it (they don't have particularly good stats, the cut was good etc)
Its like going to a car showroom and buying the first car you see, then driving it down the road and finding it at half the price. Is that unfair? No, your just a dumbass.
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09-02-2010, 03:35 AM
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#92
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,307
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
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Originally Posted by Invertible
The argument that 16k game contacts are unfair is retarded. There are loads of backers out there willing to stake, and a horse is free to go to every one and try and get the best deal. If a 16k game contract is the best they can get then there must be a reason behind it (they don't have particularly good stats, the cut was good etc)
Its like going to a car showroom and buying the first car you see, then driving it down the road and finding it at half the price. Is that unfair? No, your just a dumbass.
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boom. colin cowherd esque analogy imo
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09-02-2010, 04:55 AM
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#93
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
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Originally Posted by YouHave2outs
boom. colin cowherd esque analogy imo
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I have no idea who that is, I hope its a compliment
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09-02-2010, 04:48 PM
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#94
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banned
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Silver Spring
Posts: 13,998
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
I don't really see anything wrong with signing for a set number of games, seems like a great idea really...i just don't see why you would sell your soul for it....also while i have nothing against exclusivity per se i don't think you should give it up without somethin in return...if ur getting coached by a sick ass player it can be worth it but u gotta get something for it or ur getting ripped off and should flip burgers for money instead since u'll probably make more money
anyway the matter is pretty much settled, hope everyone learnt something from it but probably not  ...i'm probably a lot dumber now to be sure
also if you are going to write a contract and expect it to be enforcable a good choice of wording is a must like maybe spelling it a little better would have helped
hope it works out tho
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09-02-2010, 05:23 PM
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#95
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banned
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Silver Spring
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
also, just sayin...this is a very one-sided contract for the backers because the horse didm't get enough in return for that many games + exclusivity...a lot of things change in 8 months, you could land your dream job IRL, or your dream girl, or you might find out that you are a beast and a better player than your backer, and might outgrow the stake, if you don't have an out clause and your backer does then a thread like this appearing is gonna be a favorite
just sayin
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09-02-2010, 05:35 PM
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#96
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Staking
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
you are a joke unrealzeal
just sayin
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09-02-2010, 05:46 PM
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#97
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veteran
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: not interested
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
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Originally Posted by unrealzeal
also, just sayin...this is a very one-sided contract for the backers because the horse didm't get enough in return for that many games + exclusivity...a lot of things change in 8 months, you could land your dream job IRL, or your dream girl, or you might find out that you are a beast and a better player than your backer, and might outgrow the stake, if you don't have an out clause and your backer does then a thread like this appearing is gonna be a favorite
just sayin
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A staking contract can always be amended if agreed to by both sides, usually.
Your thought process can not apparently.
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09-02-2010, 05:50 PM
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#98
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
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Originally Posted by YouHave2outs
boom. colin cowherd esque analogy imo
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listen to his morning show! he's hilarious, and he always makes absurd analogies that somehow get his point across while also being very amusing. definitely a compliment, i chuckled.
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09-02-2010, 05:51 PM
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#99
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2009
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
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Originally Posted by Zima421
you are a joke unrealzeal
just sayin
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i enjoyed this post.
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09-02-2010, 06:43 PM
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#100
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banned
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Silver Spring
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
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Originally Posted by YouHave2outs
listen to his morning show! he's hilarious, and he always makes absurd analogies that somehow get his point across while also being very amusing. definitely a compliment, i chuckled.
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yeah he's pretty good
i think it's pretty funny how i'm asking everyone for backing and posting a controversial side of an argument...yeah i am a joke zima you are right! thank u for reminding me tho
the posts are for the other side, the horses ,they are the underdogs and i love a comeback story so sue me!
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09-03-2010, 12:47 AM
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#101
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veteran
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,307
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
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Originally Posted by unrealzeal
the posts are for the other side, the horses ,they are the underdogs and i love a comeback story so sue me!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zima421
you are a joke unrealzeal
just sayin
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09-03-2010, 05:52 AM
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#102
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Portsmouth, UK
Posts: 1,332
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
As said before, the contract is probably only unfair if the horse could not be bothered to apply to more than on backer, in which case its his fault. I find it hard to believe that if he is a hard working, trustworthy player, that every backer would offer him this sort of deal.
Honestly competition between backers at the moment is pretty high with free coaching being thrown in by everyone, which as we know is expensive. I expect alot of backers make a similar amount staking as they would coaching, except they have there own money at risk. When you add into the fact we have to deal with some extremely scummy people and get money stolen from us on a frequent basis, staking is not the money printing cakewalk that many in this thread make it out to be.
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09-03-2010, 08:42 AM
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#103
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: meh, fr, 6 max or hu?! :S:S
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
unrealzeal ****ing up another thread... standard.
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09-03-2010, 09:01 AM
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#104
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centurion
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 146
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
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Originally Posted by unrealzeal
yeah he's pretty good
i think it's pretty funny how i'm asking everyone for backing and posting a controversial side of an argument...yeah i am a joke zima you are right! thank u for reminding me tho
the posts are for the other side, the horses ,they are the underdogs and i love a comeback story so sue me!
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Pretty well sums up your problem imo, ...you actually believe horses and their stakers are on opposing sides.
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03-06-2011, 12:59 PM
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#105
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old hand
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,822
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re: Warning: 1mtm91 is a deceiver and a thief (*settled*)
1mtm91 has repaid us the equity from double booking and no longer owes us any money.
PM me if you have any questions.
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