Get a program like Tournament Parser and give the 100% accurate results that way. Should be easy to break a large segment of tournaments down into smaller groups.

Hi guys, I just have a question regarding staking, and hopefully I can get some advice. I'm a recreational player in London and I've been a reasonable winner in the past. Last year I used my poker winnings to clear old uni overdrafts etc and am now debt free and covering my monthly expenses and entertainment with my work.

I don't however have much money left over to save at the end of the month so I probably won't be able to save up to build a roll anytime soon.

I was offered (unsolicited but by someone who has backed me in the past) £2000 to start playing £1/1 again and then more as and when needed to move up if results are strong. However, I am liable to pay back any losses should either of us pull out. I have told him that I don't have much in the way of disposable income to repay him should the stake bust or he want to pull out. He is ok with that but would set up a payment plan.

I have a couple of questions:
1) This isn't really a staking deal as I'm assuming the risk but he still gets a slice of the profit. It's more of a starting loan isn't it?
2) In what can be a medium variance game this isn't a great deal for me is it?

I don't want to screw anyone over or have someone pushing me for money in the future. I'm eager to get back into the game but I'm not sure this is the best choice. Any advice greatly appreciated.

The Situation: A friend who is a certified winner has had a number of life expenses so he needed to spend a significant amount of his bankroll. I'm not really worried about him not being a profitable player.

However, I am fairly knew to staking so here are the terms he offered and am wondering if there are any big holes in this stake.

The Stake: I fully stake his poker career for the near future. Every 80 hours of logged play if there is a profit he receives 60% and I receive 40% of the profit. If there is a loss I receive 75% of it and he pays 25% of the loss. The plan is that he'll most likely play about 40 hours per month.

Mainly I'm wondering what any stackers think about these numbers and if 80 hours is a reasonable number. Obviously the longer the duration the more likely he'll turn a profit so a longer duration favors me. Also there may be a way better way that I'm overlooking.

^ this is live right? and you completely trust the player? Read the first post in this thread if you haven't already done so.

Be 100% clear with what stakes/games he can play, make sure lines of communication stay open throughout the stake.

Yes live play. My main concern was getting more familiarized with % of profit/loss sharing numbers as well as a duration for the intervals.

As far as trustworthiness and communication goes there will be no issues. Part of the adjustment is also transitioning from online to live play so he will need a slightly larger roll (hence the staking).

Hello there
Like you said this is a loan, you shouldn't even consider this deal but if you are determined to do so don't take the full heat counter propose in the event of loss you get to be responsible something in the area of % 20-30 max of the total loan

Hey guys

just a quick question.. I was approached by a backer to play MTT's however because i didn't have 'reputation' he insisted i pay a guarantee of around 20 ABIs.

Is this common? Or am i being scammed?

cheers

I don't think it's common and people have been scammed this way. At the very least the backer should have to explain what reputation he has. After all he is asking you to trust him with the guarantee.

But I would personally just stay away from deals like that.

most likely scam, and even if it isn't don't do it

Situation: I've been playing for a few years. My screen names are:

Pokerstars: makkarinn
Full tilt: makkarinn
888: Munnangur

I'm up around 200k last four years while having 8-4 administration job. I'm quitting my job and got an offer to have financial stability (I have a wife and two kids).

I got an offer from a backer. One year of playing (I'm committed to play on average 50 hours per week) and I get 2.000$ per month in advance. I will play with my bankroll . The only question about that deal is what the percentage would be. How much of the profit should he get?

I asked one guy who has an idea for this kind of thing and he suggested 35%.
Is that fair? Too much? Too little?

Thanks in advance.

So your backer is only taking the risk of paying you $2000/month regardless of your profit? We need a few more details to be sure.

MTT staking situation: An MTT stake on Pokerstars fixed to a certain number of tournaments just ended (we are in plus). We agreed that the rakeback would be treated as winnings and we ended up using some FPPs during the stake for tournaments tickets.

Now that the stake is finished, we are trying to decide how to calculate the total rakeback we collected on Pokerstars, since we did not specify the FPP conversion rate. We are both debating about what to do with the FPPs that have already been used for tournaments tickets and with the FPPs that are remaining.

The question comes down to whether we should use the FPP rate for tournament tickets or for cash exchange for the FPPs that have already been spent on tournament tickets and the FPPs that are still available.

We are good friend, so we are really only looking for inputs on a fair solution. I intentionally didn't specify whether I am staker or stakee in this situation to not bias anyone.

Yes, that would be the deal. After one year if I don't show profit I don't go into makeup.

Clearly FPPs used have already been turned into profit so they don't matter. FPPs left should be calculated in the most easily buyable offering. It shouldn't matter too much as Sunday Million ticket pays better than cash for most amounts (assuming the mtt horse doesn't have the FPPs to buy a $4500 cash bonus.)

It specifically depends on how much volume you play and how good you are. IE, how often are you down money at the end of the year. How often are you below $48k profit for the year? It's complicated if you don't have any idea on these.

Figured this would be the best place to post, if not...mods can do as they see fit. I'm currently at a crossroads at what to do next, mainly due to US legislation

Firstly I'd like to note that I'm an O8 player and I've been strongly considering expatriation to Mexico, but I am trying to exhaust all other options first. Currently grinding my majority on bovada, and some sngs and a few OPS events on Merge(currently 1st in o8 sng profit 2015 - any stakes, all sites). First non-US non-Pokerstars player to do this since the pre-BF days.

A second option would be finding a solid live game backer/stable who is interested in expanding into o8. Along with providing leading-edge o8 coaching to other members, I would re-invest as much as possible into furthering the goals of the group. Over past decade I've been staked, staked others, been coached, and coached other profitable players. Also o8 is a fairly low variance game, and profit margins are considerably higher than holdem.

Third option is giving up on o8, maybe as far as coaching or staking goes it's just never going to be a game taken seriously enough to matter at all?

And of course 4th option is keep grinding merge/bovada which means no long term goals/motivation or even a guarantee of my money. And the payout delays are ridiculous lately.

For some reason i cant create new thread to get staked

That reason is because you are not allowed. To find out why, read this forum. The first thread explains.

KKing-QQueen pokerstars name skype name aelistas333 looking for stake medium low mtts

I'd like some advice on the sort of staking I should be looking for.

I'm looking to get staked for 25NL, 6m on .com site. I have extended poker experience, played up to 400nl back 3-4 years ago, which doesn't reaaaally count because it's been so long but I guess it shows some dedication. I built my bankroll by myself from $5 to mid 5 figures back then.

I'm getting back into the game, been playing around with 2NL and beating it (lol) pretty consistantly (25bb/100 over 21k hands played).

What type of deal could I get given these info? How much bankroll, what kind of split profits, etc etc.

Any advice welcome.

not the right thread and a horrible deal. gl though.

Hi,
i'm a new member here and i'm looking for a banker. As i can't create a thread to find a banker or to sale some % for my MTT's and PTP is closed can anyone tell me a site for making stacking deals with no requirements?
Thanks a lot

I have a question about makeup. So say the deal is 70(staker)/30(me) with makeup, he is also paying 100% of the stake. Stake is given the day of the live game and winnings are cut after every live session is played.

Lets say on week 1, we end the live game +$500 in profit (not including buy-in). The buy-in is first given back in full, then we calculate the cut from the $500 profit. I give the person staking me his 70% cut, $350. I take my cut of $150. On week 2, we end the live game -$1000 in total. How is the make-up calculated? Could someone show me the math for that so I can understand it a little better? Also, say additional week 3 is played, and we go on to win $+1500 profit. How much do I pay? and what is cut between our deal? I am very new and have been struggling to wrap my head around it, thank you.

After week 1 your make up is $0. You are correct about the cuts.

After week 2 your make up is $1000. You don't get any money.

After week 3 your pay stake back (not included in your +1500 number, I hope) first; then you pay make up ($1000); then you split the profit ($500); that's 150$ for you. Makeup is back to $0.

I hope this helps. Most problems happen when one party wants to quit and the make up isn't 0, and/or when when the staker advances the stakee money for living expenses (e.g. during your week 2 example). Then it gets more complicated.

end of week 2, the makeup would be $1000. There is no math really, when a buyin is not repaid, it becomes "makeup".

end of week 3, there is +$1500 profit. So before any splits, the makeup is repaid leaving +$500 profit, which then is split according to your 70/30 deal (in this case, your cut would be same as week 1).

@jh1711 and @_dave_ okay thank you for the quick response. I understand now, I was in the mindset that my previous profits/his profits were calculated into the makeup.
But, wow... so that means if the stakee goes on a heater for like +30k for example never going into makeup, then goes on a huge downswing, the staker gets hurt really bad while the stakee still keeps his already won winnings, but can't win further until the makeup of the downswing is paid?