Someone in another thread posted about the Australian minimum wage. I started to do some more research on the subject to possibly profit when Los Angeles increases it minimum wage.

http://workinglife.org.au/minimum-wage-story/
This cartoon depicts the typical liberals view of minimum wage terrorism. Most San Bushman have a 2 hour workday with no minimum wage.

http://fee.org/freeman/the-eugenics-...-minimum-wage/
Jeffery Tucker believes minimum wage was a Eugenics plot. By preventing people from working, you can force them to starve to death and die out from the population.

I have also heard lately that minimum wage stops immigration. However, by experience I find the opposite to happen. Illegals are the choice of many employees as they can pay them at or less than minimum wage and have a low risk of a lawsuit, compared to paying U.S. citizens under the table. I would not be surprised if most of the illegal immigration is due to minimum wage laws, as you can send money home.

2006 13.47
2007 13.74
2008 14.31
2009 14.31
2011 15.51
2012 15.96
2013 16.37
2014 16.87
2015 17.29

However, those are AUD if converted to USD, the minimum wage has been dropping.

2006 .75
2007 .83
2008 .95
2009 .81
2011 1.07
2012 .97
2013 .96
2014 .93
2015 .76
present .73

2015 present 17.29*.73 = $12.62
2011 15.51*1.07= $16.60
2006 13.47*.75= $10.10

Australia taxes
Taxable income
Tax on this income
0 – $18,200
Nil
$18,201 – $37,000
19c for each $1 over $18,200
$37,001 – $80,000
$3,572 plus 32.5c for each $1 over $37,000
$80,001 – $180,000
$17,547 plus 37c for each $1 over $80,000
$180,001 and over
$54,547 plus 45c for each $1 over $180,000

Ding ding ding ding!!! Well said!

Hardees CEO stunting.

So fkn racist

You didn't quote the whole post you fake. The whole idea of the post was to show minimum wage is racist. The reason why black youth unemployment is so high is minimum wage creates a barrier to entry. Replace white with hot women.

Unlike you I actually think blacks are good hard smart workers. However there how can you explain the high unemployment. There must be barriers. There is no cost to be racist and hire a white person over a black person with minimum wage.

It is a disgrace liberals hate blacks and minorities so much and prevent them from working. It is because in the long run they are scared they will take their jobs and make more money than them. There are no 2nd chances.

ok you may have a point I shouldnt have jumped to conclusions. YOu shouldnt have either though in that post, saying what I think when you have no idea how I think.

There seems to be a general sense that Black people are less employed for economic reasons (how useful they are as employees), when it could be for others reasons. After all, Black people get a worse deal in the justice system usually and other reasons, so why wouldn't they in employment interviews?

Your arguments seem pretty good (though I disagree) but I hate labels like 'liberal'. Its like you put me in a group you like to bash (like a strawman group). Maybe thats why you say I hate blacks and minorities, which I don't, because you see me as a character in that group.

Employment interviews should not be that important. Employment interviews are more of a new phenomena, you use to be able to walk on the job and the foreman would give you a job on the spot.

If you have a restaurant where everyone is making $3 per hour, the farmers are making $3 per hour, and the truck drivers, you would expect the prices for the same goods would be 3x less than a company where the workers are paid $9 per hour.

So if you are paid 3x less but prices are 3x less relatively you are just as rich.

I bash on liberals because I was one, I know they are think they are good and more moral than the right. When Garcetti says he wants to raise the minimum wage, he actually thinks he is helping the poor people.

I would prefer to work at a publicly traded corporation where everyone is paid the same with 26 weeks of paid vacation a year. Where if you want to you can keep the vacation or cash it in. It should be a privilege to be a CEO, executive, or engineer, you should not be paid more for it.

They just raised the minimum wage in California to $15 in 2022. Either prices will have to rise or workers have to be cut to remain open. The average profit margin is about 5%, 1/2 of the sales tax. Debts have just been cut in 1/2, at the expense of debt holders. Illegals and foreigners will flock to the state. Savings have been confiscated. The minimum wage for the self-employed is $0.00.

I was looking for a thread to complain about this in, and I guess this is the best we got.

But yes, a $15 minimum wage for a moron whose #1 qualification is that they have a pulse is f*cking ******ed, and there are going to be enormous unintended consequences.

Here's one right off the bat: Say goodbye to live poker in California. I don't play that often anymore so I don't really care, but the juice is already pretty high and that's with a $10 minimum wage. A 50% increase over 5 years is ridiculous.

The way capitalism is suppose to work.

You have 3 restaurants A,B, and C. Restaurant A only hires whitey and pays $10 per hour (ph) and charges $10 per hamburger. Restaurant B decides decides to hire intercity kids and homeless for $5ph and charges $5 per hamburger. People still like Restaurant A better so B goes out of business. Restaurant C decides to hire intercity kids for $3ph and charge $5 per hamburger. Restaurant A seems to go out of business, but decides to offer fish and steak too and lowers wages to $8ph. Wages, quality of employees, and products all adjust but in the long run. Then some ass like Krugman, Marx, J. Brown, Sanders, E. Warren, Wolff, or Reich will always come along and say we need minimum wages, shorter hours, retirement accounts, unions omg, same pay for each sex, personal time offer, hurting mean bosses, maternity leave, safety, or any other scheme to help workers.

The reality is the only thing making people poorer is government itself. Most of these people trying to help you above would be fired from any of the above restaurant in about 2 days. If government would just get out of the way or remove barriers they already have, permitting, private ownership of unequal lands, and taxes, people would be far richer.

So you say the restaurant worker makes $3pr on average. While the farmer makes $15ph, the auto worker $25ph, the firefighter $30ph, and the lawyer $35ph. So the kid see the firefighter job as something he can do goes to public college gets all the certs, applies everywhere and the only one getting the jobs are firefighter families a, insiders, and racial quotas. What you see here is the government unwilling to lower the price of the job to allow anyone that applies and is qualified the job. They are creating racism and anxiety. Setting wages by unions, grades or experience is only going to create insanity wards. Everyone should be able to be a paid firefighter if they want, lower the wage, end the union!

In the meantime the restaurant worker can move to another profession, maybe a farmer, or maybe a new profession altogether like rocketman. But as a result, all professions are intertwined. The wages and working conditions are all set fairly as if an invisible hand is doing it. The only thing government can do to make people richer is end all wage laws, all unions, and private ownership of land laws, enforce all environmental laws, end all tariffs, corporations over schools, CEOs over economic professors, barriers to entry, end the fed, and all other laws that hurt people.

cheers. This is reality in the real world not some Krugman, Sanders, Trump (trade), or Obama beating and rape of the American worker. In the real world if you want to be a firefigher, show up to the fire station and be hired the same day with no experience or training.

You mean to tell me that I have to pay more for my shirts because of this bull****?! Let the immigrants get another job, or burn and decrease the surplus population; they are probably mostly illegal anyway, right?

****ing government, man

The workers should not work there if they don't like the conditions. If they did not steal, they would not have to locked up the stairwells. Employees should make sure they offer life insurance policies, breaks, and highest wages possible. Any employer that did not have bolt cutters at least around is not a company worth working for. As people leave the unsafe company they will either have to make it safe or lose workers to safer companies. Employee work at a company due to offer the corporation makes to the employee. The employee can take the offer and work there, or work somewhere else.

In San Francisco in 1906 when 1/2 the town burned down, having them install fire sprinkler systems was ok, because one building effects other buildings. If all had fire sprinkler systems, it would not be a problem. However in 1906 that technology was new, or non existent.

It is not government protecting you from smog by requiring you to get a smog check. It is government enforcing laws preventing other people from putting smog down your throat. Most environmental laws are similar to speeding tickets.

Many safety laws are to save the worker time to have to investigate whether a business is safe to work at. It did not come from unions or government.

Government has one purpose only to send you off to die in war, to take your money, and put you homeless on the street unless to pay $2000 a month to the man. Not to help you but give Obama 50 aides to go golfing, drivers, and a plane, a massive severance package and $50,000 speeches when he gets out. Otherwise all land would be free and you could move to New York City and build a 1000 square foot $1000 home. Then even minimum wage would make you rich.

It is a privilege and honor to work at a corporation. Corporations are not people, they are better than people.

If it is unsafe to work there post it on employment forums. With or without government laws, bad employers are unsafe to work for.

the old "get another job" argument



Maybe victims of crime should, idk, move out of their crime-ridden areas? No need for police.

Maybe victims of car accidents should, idk, not drive around unsafe drivers? No need for traffic signs.

Maybe people who want to insulate their children from profanity should, idk, never listen to the radio? No need for the FCC.

It has been a while since my last smog check, I'll admit.

What about ASIANs? Asians know how to cook.

Kneegrows got a SWEET deal when you compare to what the GovErNmenT has done to the american indian....hi-ho silver!