Some of the latest news on this thread. It seems the error in Henry George's LVT is apparent, money going to government is not the same as money going to the people. He went down the long list of people that wrote near perfect book but came to a wrong solution. Apparently he witnessed government owned leased land going to a school district and came to the conclusion land taxes going to government would be the same as land taxes going to the people. Ayn Rand clearly shows his error.

There is another movement going on "The Zeitgeist Movement" basically the TZM requires the world support and thus as George stated and Hayek showed in Road to Serfdom will basically lead to a dictatorship.

A solution, which is rather easy to implement, basically states by living in a city you are entitled to equal ownership of the land of the city. You pay a fixed city tax or donate an equivalent amount of time to a city that never changes though the centuries. I suggest 1 ounce of gold or 100 hours of service a year to the city. Residents under 21 and over 70 do not have to pay the tax.

All it will take is one city, and the remaining cities will have to change to compete with the new city.

Thus if you live in Malibu, 19.83 square miles, with a population of 12,645 you are entitled to 43,700 square feet of living space. Assuming 50% of that land is mountains, beaches, or parks, each person is entitle to 20,000 square feet. Due to the massive expected influx of new people you might only be expected to own 5,000 square feet. The city may tack on an additional tax to acquire new lands for the city.

Thus all properties will be graded by quality and size. All the properties that take up too much land and dilapidated will be taken by non or low compensated imminent domain. The land will be divided into lots most likely to build condos. The new owners will decide on the building to be built. However, new modular construction can be built of $100 a square foot. Thus a 1500 square foot apartment can be built for $150,000. Since the residents will own the building, assuming a 50 year lifespan, the cost of own will be $250 a month. The money will go to the city to pay for new construction.

So you have the choice do you want to live in new state of the art complex with high speed lines as you choose in Malibu for $250 a month or the San Fernando Valley for $2000 a month. People will move to Malibu in droves. Virtually the entire city of Malibu will be levelled and replaced with new construction with 10 years.

No city will be able to compete with Malibu on an intellectual level. Reno or Las Vegas might since the have no income tax, but for intellectual jobs Malibu will become the New York and New York will become a ghost town as the stock exchange and financial district moves to Malibu.

Furthermore, Malibu will become the town of workers. People that don't pay the low city tax will be forced to move. The leeches and welfare recipients will leave being replaced by the working poor, soon to be the working rich, of the country. A $10 per hour job will be a fortune.

Although the land built most cities. The farm built Des Moines, the gold built Stockton, the international trading built Los Angeles, and even Hoover Dam/Gambling/Air Hub/Low Taxes/I15 built Vegas. Many cites will thrive and survive with high rents dues to the value of the land around the city. But the kicker is cities like Malibu will have the ability to go into the city of Des Moines and buy land sending people to move there that want cheap rent of $250 a month.

Maybe you would not even need a city to sign up. But just a seed building. That is the real Zeitgeist movement Peter Josephs should look for.

Some cities might give you 50,000 square feet and you have no rent or city taxes.

Here is the preliminary plan for a reality t.v. show which I copyright. After watching some of Utopia, I think we can make a far more interesting show.

1. We need to buy 1 square mile, possibly even a town. 25% of revenues to the town, can be used to buy more land for the town. The land is owned by the people whom make the town permanent residence. The government only acts as fiduciary no tax is collected from land.

2. By keeping property taxes, rents low, wages do not have to be high to meet a high standard of living.

3. Anyone that wants to move to this town can however tax to the town is $1000 per person or 100 hours of community work. Land is free but you may be limited to lot size (about 10,000 square feet). All extra lots not used can be leased for very low rates like $1 a year. However everyone has equal chance to lease extra lots. As people move to the town, the leases may end if the new residents want the land.

4. The government is only in charge of policing, law, and such. Schooling is done privately. Road building is not done by government. Elected officials might be elected by simple majority, but spending of money might require 95% aye vote.

Just a draft.

There was an episode on Utopia where they were suppose to implement anarchy. What happened was someone of the group spent a bunch of money on food with no ones permission. The host of the show claimed this was proof anarchy did not work.

The reality what it showed is collectivism or the socialism did not work. The money was for the collective and someone overspent, typical of democratic party rule (even though republicans do the same or worse).

What this will show is the power of the individual. The individual will have equal rights to land. They will have equal access of land used for capital or businesses. If implemented, that standard of private property will collapse pretty quickly.

If everyone on the show had a plot of land and equal money to start. The little pig that built the house out of stone would not be penalized. You could build a mansion and not pay more property tax than anyone else. You would not have to feel one bit of guilt as they would have every opportunity to build their own mansion if they worked for it.

You also could not monopolize land by getting there first or accumulating land.

The reason why private property will collapse. Is suppose you offer to move a Boeing plant to your city. Not only will you give Boeing low or no tax and free land, you offer to limit pay to employees to 2x minimum wage. Maybe require Boeing to maintain certain roads. The standard model of American city where taxes are collected on 1.3% of property values will be uncompetitive. China might even be uncompetitive. However, this city will only reward to brightest and hardest workers. There will be unlimited jobs and minimum wage will be a rockstar type wage. As more workers in the city accept minimum wage your dollar will go farther, as average wage is related to average price.

I guess I am talking to myself here, but to the bookworm thumbs up.

This next section will be controversial.

To prevent overpopulation, there must be a means to prevent someone with 10 kids to gain more land power over someone with say 3 kids or no kids. Furthermore to tax the immigrationistas that want to let people into the country. Thus as all the land rents are collected every person gets a portion. However when you bring a person into this world, your portion gets cut with your land shared with your fruit. Everyone in the United States starts out with the same percentage of the rents.

Thus you get 1/300,000,000th deeded.
You have 3 kids, they get 1/4 of the fathers land and 1/4 of the mothers land. When you pass, that land goes to your will. If you are single mother 1/2 your land goes to your kid. The land becomes vested on the 18th birthday.

If you turn 18 and your parents have a 4th kid, you get your 1/4 fathers share, your 1/4 mothers share and the remaining kids divide the 3/4 fathers share and 3/4 mothers share into 4 pieces or (3/4)/4.

People can sell or donate land to immigrants and other people. You might require 1/4 acre to move here. Men that go Wilt Chamberlain might get 1/100th share from their dad and 1/4 share from their mom.

Just wanted a bump. Somehow I know I am on the right track here. Henry George was wrong land value tax going to government is a horrible idea, it should go to the people. The amount of land you can own tax free should be based on geographic area, not the rental value of the land. Parks, schools, roads and libraries add to the nearby lands value but so do stores and factories. However, generally it is the people nearby that own land that built all of it, thus if their land values rise they deserve it, not government!

Thus someone in Malibu might get 500 square feet tax free and pay $1 a year per square foot of land. This money would be pooled and sent to each resident equally. This is for the land not the structure. Thus, the poor will receive a check for living on inferior land in a poor geographical location. The median person would most likely receive a land check.

The government has no right to receive property taxes from land. If you want electricity, schools, roads, water, cable, sewerage, fire, you pay directly for their use if you want them from the city.

Somehow it seems wrong to penalize kids because their parents had more kids. It seems if you end all welfare, it would put an economic incentive on her not to have kids and thus as is today she will have fewer kids.

So how doe a city collect taxes to pay for the police, the courts. To me this should come from a direct tax per person. Maybe $1000 per person over 18. Maybe lower or higher in certain areas. The government should try to collect revenues by owning equity and making investments. For example Shasta dam, provides revenues from electricity and water. A railroad, bus system can provide ticket for-profit revenues. however there would be no corporate or sales tax, however the government can make investment with seed money. Like inflation during the big bang, $1 can turn into billions over time. The can also be gas and alcohol taxes.

Thus sales, income (this might collected be nationally for defense), corporate income, tariffs, property, electricity, capital gains, inflation, dividends, and all other taxes should and could be ended asap.

For science, many of these projects like going to Mars should occur rather rapidly from the private sector if capitalism is taught in schools. Looking at the large Hadron collider it is remarkable how cheap it was, $9 billion so far and provide 7,000 jobs. Profits from the endowment funds could easily pay for them and if we had endowment funds for science we could fund all space and nasa missions without any tax. The Gates foundation trust could fund it. Furthermore, the should be stocks you can buy for space even though they might not produce revenues for a century.

That was a quick year.

Latest update,

Take San Francisco population 837,000 and has 46.87 square miles of land. The city should have the right to 25% of the land for transportation and parks only. That leaves 1170 square feet per person. If someone builds several apartment buildings and they take up 100,000 square feet of land, but 200 people live in them, each person is really only using 500 square feet of land. They choose to live in the buildings, and the building owner is providing them a service as a choice. The buildings and land are not owned by the government. The land is owned by the residents and the building might be owned by an REIT. As long as the ownership never exceeds 1170 square feet, the building will remain as is. If the apartments are priced too high and the number of residents drops to 50, that is 2000 square feet and the apartments must be demolished as the people in them are taking up too much land and that is not considering their place of work. Suppose the work in an auto shop that takes up 10000 square feet, the auto shop must lease that extra land from people that have extra land or face demolition.

If you choose to live on a 30x30 fenced lot, there is nothing the city can do or even the richest person can do to kick you off. The people own the land equally like air. You truly own the land and that means no property taxes. The city and land barons have no power except imminent domain for a road. Once a city has over 100,000 people, it should be divided into 2 cities unless the people vote not to in a vote that must occur every 2 years. Thus you get cities with similar characteristics.

Thus Elon Musk can build a base on Mars and since the base uses so little land compared to the planet and possible parks, for the near future he or you can do as he pleases. But if the population grows and his base goes out of fashion, new building and people may choose to use his land and he would be forced to demo. However considering his base might take up 10 square miles and the surface area of Mars is roughly the size of all land on earth - it might be awhile!

This is the last post as I plan to write a blog or book.

So this ultimately leads for new alternate society and reality t.v. show. Someone can private message me if you lead me to celebrities, investors, producers that would be interested in what I call the ultimate of all reality shows. The only reality show where the public can be part of it by moving there and obtain free land to build a house, run a commercial shop, and have a farm at any time in their lives.

The t.v. show will never have an end. It will document the growth of society. Unlike burning man which ends, this goes on in perpetuity and should grow to take over the United States and then the world. It will take over the world because it allocates land more efficiently than private property. I would like to consult to assure artistic integrity show, filming, and economics are correct. If reality show is too complicated, we can go to a Utopian movie format.

A town or land in it must be bought most likely in one of the non-income tax states. The problem with existing towns is most of the land is private property. Thus, we will have to have the rights.

The typical land story of private property, is immigrants come over and become farmers. A couple generations go by, however the kids dream of city life. As the elderlies retire the farm is sold, not to a corporate farmer, but to another farm accumulating land. The kids move to the city to become scientists, engineers, actors, and lawyers. Their kids grow up the wealthy lifestyle, however blow the work ethic on public schools and city jobs. However, some can not afford the high rents and end up living on the streets or worse, dreaming of one day to become a farmer buy unable to pay for the farmland. They die on the streets cold, dirty and penniless.

The rich city businessman owns several businesses. He can get up and move to another city, buy a business or the best locations in the city. With little or no risk or intellect the profits flow easy because he has a competitive advantage due to the power of his wealth. Consider Marcus Lemonis as an example. His relative contribution to the business is average or low, yet he is the owner and as such is able to obtain the profits. Yes city workers, lawyers, teachers, professors, etc. scam as much they can however, they leave a few crumbs to the business owner as they are the feed trough.

The city landowner, farm land owner, and the government worker are all in similar classes able to use their monopoly of land to scam labor. This project puts an end to that. The poor want a guaranteed minimum wage or wage, yet someone has to make the money for it to have any value. Thus the working poor pay all the bills to live to feed others.

General rules are:

All land is free and tax free. The amount of land you can own is based upon the number of people. Everyone owns the same amount of land. If population grows your amount of your land ownership drops. Thus if the town is 2000 acres and there are 4000 people, you can use up to ½ acre. Everyone over 16 is allowed land allocation. 25% or 50% of land might be devoted to parks and wildlife.

You can lease extra land you do not use. But, leases must end after a year to reallocated land square footage. If you use less, you can put your land in a private land pool and receive income. Immigration could stop if the town becomes too dense.

The city will have areas zoned agricultural, industrial, commercial, and residential land. Each resident would own an equal square footage in each zone. Residents can trade land in each zone. Thus you might trade extra agricultural land you own for more commercial land if you run a shop and do not want to farm. Thus, you can never get locked out of land to run a business or farm.

The city residents and government might expand city acreage by purchasing land by donation. This land might not necessarily be adjacent to the city. There can be numerous land divisions, even 3 or 4 residential different divisions for example downtown, residential, and ranch/lakeside/beachside.

Living on Someone Elses property

If you choose to live on someone else's land, your land usage is determined by the size of his lot divided by the number of people that choose that lot as their residence.

For example, If you decide to construct an apartment building, the number of residents divided by the square footage of the property represents the pseudo ownership of the tenant. You may own the building that takes up more than your fair share of land square footage but tenants are considered to own the land too as if it their permanent residence on residential land. If the ownership of the tenant exceeds the maximum allowed land, the apartment is demoed even if it the most luxurious apartment in town. To repeat if someone lives in the apartment, even though they don't own the building, they give up rights to land as if they owned the land underneath. However, no one is forced to live anywhere, and if the rents are too high, people may choose not to live there, and the building leveled or forced lower rent to gain tenants. Rents will drop til abandonment. Same is true of malls or any property that uses more than the fair share of the individual. This should lead to a constant rebirth of the city.


Taxes

There are no taxes or permits. There are no property taxes. There are no income taxes. There are no sales taxes. There are no business taxes. There are no capital gains taxes. There are no dividend taxes. There are no permitting taxes. There are no car registration or fuel taxes. There are no taxes! A mayor suggesting or implementing a tax is a crime.

To support the city roads, fire, police, and courts each person will be required to work 100 hours to the city a year or pay the $ fine per person set at 110% of the median wage. Thus, someone with valuable time might pay the fee as oppose to doing the community service. Married couples do not get a tax “time” break, children younger than 18 do not pay tax or time, however may do so to forgo paying time later. The town might have donations sites and might also invest in for-profit endeavors.

Wealthy people may wish to require higher fines to create a better infrastructure. This must be done in another city.

Utilities

The utilities are owned by the people. Thus if you are required to use city water, connection is free. The city can charge for a trolley, only if the roads are free for use. The city can levy a property tax next to the most desirable land locations, next to a lake or train station for example. This is not considered a tax but partial land ownership. Up to 25% of the land within the city will be consider city owned land.

Only solar photovoltaic energy and electric cars may be used.

Elections

Elections are determined by performance. The goal is to elect the best person to run at mayor job, like Michael Jordan might be considered the best basketball player of the 20th century. Voting protects the majority and the expense of the minority. The candidate must be able to run two mile in 17:00 minutes. The candidate who contributes the most money to the city gets the job. Thus monies that would normally go to campaigns now goes to roads. The mayor must do an oath that his main job is to provide duty for all people of the city with no wage.

Misc

The city might also have their own currency where the money is invested and holders of the currency might receive interest. Thus orange money is traded to red money with interest, even though both money are equal to 1:1 to the dollar as required by law. This will allow people and corporations to hold dollars and not debt. At times one ounce of copper money is made to be later sold on ebay when the price of copper ultimately rises due to government and fed money supply increases. Due to economy of scale it can be done for a very low cost near the market price of copper. By law no human can be on the coin except as a specimen of the human animal.

You can self-publish books on e-readers pretty easily these days.