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Old 07-11-2012, 03:02 PM   #1
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What's villain's range here? 2 hands

2/5NL but most of the table is a little deep.

Villain (~$1800): mid 20s pro, has mentioned playing a lot online, and playing up to 10/25. He's playing somewhat laggy, but generally not getting too crazy, he did put out some big raises though that I thought were most likely bluffs. Sitting directly to hero's right.

Hero (~$2900): I have a maniac to my left who's straddling from every position except the earliest positions, who is raising maybe 40% of the time pre when limped to him, and who is willing to 3bet me IP liberally (plus he'll flat wide, float flops, make moves, etc). So although I'm known as a laggy player, I'm playing much tighter than I normally do.

Table dynamics: This table sucks! Someone at the table keeps calling it the "all-star game" because all of the best regs are here, and there's only 2 fish, neither of whom have much money on the table, and they're playing fairly tight. Time to get up I guess...


Hand 1:
Villain opens to $20 in middle-ish position. Hero calls with AJ. A couple of other callers.
Flop: AK7
Villain leads $40. Hero calls.
Turn: 4
Villain leads $100. Hero calls.
River: 7
Villain leads $400. Hero??? (Folds)


Hand 2:
Hero straddles BTN. A couple limps, then villain opens to $50 from CO. Villain has been raising a ton from CO when I straddle, most of the time to like $70+, and I've been folding junk every time. Hero has AK and 3bets to $160. (This is the second time I've 3bet villain; he flatted me OOP the first time - cbet on dry board took it down). Villain calls.

Flop: 9TJ
Villain quickly leads for $175
Hero calls
Turn: 4
Villain leads for $400 and has close to $1100 behind.
Hero folds (I was seriously considering shoving here since I think V folds most of his 1 pair hands, but decided it was way too spewy).

I'm just lost as to what villain's range is in both hands. Should I be shoving QQ+ ott in the second hand? Should I call his river bet in the first hand?

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Old 07-11-2012, 04:17 PM   #2
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Re: What's villain's range here? 2 hands

I'm snapping river off in one.

His value hands are a little to narrow and that heart draw not getting there can either make him bluff off missed hearts or help him 3 barrell, putting you on hearts that will fold.

At worst we are chopping a bunch of times. If he has AA, KK, or AK, then damn. A 7 would suck.

He's a pro and laggy, he can definitely be bluffing and betting any ace like that.

Just fold the flop in 2.
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Old 07-11-2012, 04:55 PM   #3
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Re: What's villain's range here? 2 hands

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I'm snapping river off in one.

His value hands are a little to narrow and that heart draw not getting there can either make him bluff off missed hearts or help him 3 barrell, putting you on hearts that will fold.

At worst we are chopping a bunch of times. If he has AA, KK, or AK, then damn. A 7 would suck.

He's a pro and laggy, he can definitely be bluffing and betting any ace like that.

Just fold the flop in 2.
Oops, I think I may have messed up hand 1. Honestly, I forget which runout is correct, but I do remember feeling like there was a chance V had a naked 7 in his hand. I think it came:
AK7 - 4 - 7

Would this change your decision?

In hand 2, yeah I know I should've just folded the flop. My A made me a little sticky though... I was mostly curious what line I would take if I had a big pair in my hand. Call down or shove turn? Could I ever fold QQ-AA to a river shove if a brick peels otr?

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Re: What's villain's range here? 2 hands

yea, it makes me want to fold the river a lot more.
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