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1/2NL, Flopped J-high flush from BB, line check 1/2NL, Flopped J-high flush from BB, line check

05-25-2017 , 06:31 PM
Stakes: $1/$2 Effective Stack ($160)

3 players limp so I check Jh4h in the BB

Flop: KhQh6h
SB checks, I check, and CO bets 12 which is pot size. SB calls and I raise to 36. Both SB and CO call.

Turn: 6d
SB checks, I bet 40 in to a pot of 120. CO calls and SB folds.

River: 10c
Hero??

My thought process:
Pre-Flop: I didn't raise because I have a marginal hand at best and I didn't want to face a 3-bet or bloat the pot out of position.
Flop: I checked the flop because I wanted to try and induce a bluff/semi-bluff, which did happen. Looking back I think the check-raise on the flop was incorrect and I should have just called.
Turn: Safe card and I lead out and now the CO decides to station. I figure if he has the nuts then he is going to jam on me. I should have check called?
River: Again another safe card.

This was my second live cash game I've ever played. I'm only 17 and just started playing. I think I would play the hand the same way on the turn and river now that I am a tad older at 20. I just got coolered

Last edited by Garick; 05-25-2017 at 08:06 PM. Reason: Removed results
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05-25-2017 , 06:42 PM
Raising pre is out of the question. By check raising flop you let them know you have a flush and you play your hand face up. Other than that it's just a cooler.
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05-25-2017 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShakeDaddy
Pre-Flop: I didn't raise because I have a marginal hand at best and I didn't want to face a 3-bet or bloat the pot out of position.
We check this pre flop because our hand is god awful and terrible.
Not wanting to get 3bet is sort of a reason, but it should never even get to that part of your thought process.

Given stack sizes this is probably fine to stack off here.
I'd normally just lead for $10 - $12 on the flop.
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05-25-2017 , 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheShakeDaddy
Stakes: $1/$2 Effective Stack ($160)

3 players limp so I check Jh4h in the BB

Flop: KhQh6h
SB checks, I check, and CO bets 12 which is pot size. SB calls and I raise to 36. Both SB and CO call.

Turn: 6d
SB checks, I bet 40 in to a pot of 120. CO calls and SB folds.

River: 10c
I jam for 80 or so and he snaps off with Ah8h

My thought process:
Pre-Flop: I didn't raise because I have a marginal hand at best and I didn't want to face a 3-bet or bloat the pot out of position.
Flop: I checked the flop because I wanted to try and induce a bluff/semi-bluff, which did happen. Looking back I think the check-raise on the flop was incorrect and I should have just called.
Turn: Safe card and I lead out and now the CO decides to station. I figure if he has the nuts then he is going to jam on me. I should have check called?
All correct can't be check raising unless it's the nuts or a awesome steal



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Last edited by Garick; 05-25-2017 at 08:07 PM. Reason: removed results from quote
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05-25-2017 , 07:57 PM
DO NOT post results. It skews the comments.

Personally, I'm leading flop. We have 2nd nuts. We've gotta start building the pot. When limped pf, there's no preflop aggressor we can expect to create the action for us. If you want people to bluff/semi-bluff you, you've gotta give them something to work with. All sorts of pairs, 2p, will call, if not raise out of fear of a 4th heart. You might have weaker flushes/draws go over the top as well.

OTT, there's already so much in the pot, it's hard for any line not to get all stacks in by showdown, but unless we regularly make weak bets for whatever reason, I like at least 1/2 pot.

To sum up... when connecting big, bet big. Do not expect others to create action for us. Also, don't be MUBSY (monsters under the bed syndrome.) You've flopped a monster, think of how to get paid, not how to loose the minimum.
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05-25-2017 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer
DO NOT post results. It skews the comments.

Personally, I'm leading flop. We have 2nd nuts. We've gotta start building the pot. When limped pf, there's no preflop aggressor we can expect to create the action for us. If you want people to bluff/semi-bluff you, you've gotta give them something to work with. All sorts of pairs, 2p, will call, if not raise out of fear of a 4th heart. You might have weaker flushes/draws go over the top as well.

OTT, there's already so much in the pot, it's hard for any line not to get all stacks in by showdown, but unless we regularly make weak bets for whatever reason, I like at least 1/2 pot.

To sum up... when connecting big, bet big. Do not expect others to create action for us. Also, don't be MUBSY (monsters under the bed syndrome.) You've flopped a monster, think of how to get paid, not how to loose the minimum.
All of this. I removed the results from OP, and the bet/bet/bet line is also what I would recommend.
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05-25-2017 , 08:24 PM
bet, bet, bet is better
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05-25-2017 , 08:28 PM
You might wanna remove the other identical post, or merge them, I guess.
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05-25-2017 , 08:30 PM
I am not sure how to do that, I literally just joined today!
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05-25-2017 , 09:36 PM
Yeah, I was suggesting Garick do that, he is a mod.
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05-25-2017 , 09:39 PM
I also agree with bet bet bet line. The c/r on the flop screams flush and unless you are mixing in bluffs here, (which i could be wrong but I doubt you have many bluffs on this flop given this action) your hand is face up. Disguise the hand a little and just lead like you would with top pairs/ two pair/whatever.
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05-25-2017 , 09:42 PM
Thanks for bringing the other thread to my attention. I just saw the one with all caps as I was heading out the door. Merged now.

And welcome to the forum, OP.
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