Originally Posted by coffmaer
Ok but that's why it's important to have reads on a guy before you put yourself into a situation like this. It's not about automatically assuming players can't do this. It's about the odds that a random player you encounter in this game is capable of doing this. I would say it's a pretty low percentage. I don't play at commerce so maybe I'm wrong.
Hey Coffmaer, You are 100% correct & I completely agree with your statement. I was never implying that it is correct to do this on a regular basis, because the situation needs to be perfect for it to work & you need to be pretty certain that...
A. You are certain that Villain has a strong hand, but not a strong enough hand that can call.
B. We need to know that Villain is capable of making pretty big lay downs.
C. Our image in this spot signifies that we would never be doing this as a bluff.
D. We are representing a large enough combination of hands that would be played this way & would be making this raise for value.
So like I said, these plays are reserved for very rare occasions. But the reason that I posted this was because OP was indeed telling the truth about a lot of players believing that nobody (at Commerce) would do this as a bluff. Therefore, when the situation is perfectly set up for this, it can be very profitable because you would get a fold often enough to make this a +EV play.