I have been very active preflop, and a little splashy post. I have no reads on villian, and this is the first hand we have ever played. 3.6k effective stacks. This hand was played at commerce casino, but i want your perspective on it.

Hero opens utg+2 with ThJh to 40, utg+3 3bets to 140, folds, Hero calls.

Flop (195) Qh9h9d

Hero checks, Villian bets 180, Hero calls

Turn (555) 2s

Hero checks, Villian bets 365, Hero calls

River (1285) 7h

Hero bets 800, Villian raises to 2000

I figured i wouldnt have much fold equity if i c/r the flop. Id basically get him to fold air and maybe TT-JJ at most, but i am not repping much. So i decided to flat flop. River, i felt like he would check back AA-KK, AQ, so i wanted to put him to a decision and allow him to hero call with his pairs when the flush completes. Its a gross spot because i never see live players bluff raise the river like this.

Thoughts on all streets appreciated.

eh i think he has qq here a lot, tho im hesitant to think that he would bet basically pot on that flop w/ the nuts.

i really wanna call since i dont think he raises your lead on riv w/ AKhh and should only have qq here, but then again its live poker so i dont mind tossing this one into the muck.

who was this played against?

I think folding is better then calling unless villain doesn't know how to play and does spewy stuff on the river. I think as played this is a call but I just don't know if he can really have KK-AA here.

you decided to b/f, so now its time to fold

you are right, no one really bluff raises river live, time to fold.

I play at commerce quite often and it seems like none of the players that are capable of bluff raising the river that big. In fact I think he made the flush. You have some combo draw blockers but I don't think you can call here. Preflop is fine, on the flop i would c/r the flop to see where I am at. Most people aren't 3bet bluffing a paired board flop. like Q99. And if he calls you can check the turn and if he can bet into you, you are beat and if he checks back he is likely on a draw/has a pocket pair.

I don't think I can find a fold here. Villain should put you on very few draws since you called turn OOP on a paired board. Your hand has lots of absolute strength against someone who might be non-thinking. Lastly, you're getting a good price.

His raise is small. As played I would call. But c/c river is best imo.

OP, i think folding pre is best. Is he really 3 betting you light utg 3 vs utg 2? Your hand doesn't play too well even if he is 3betting light. I don't get why you say you can't rep a 9 when you flop raise but have JThh in your range. Flop is a raise/4bet imo. Full houses and quads are hard to make. If you're not going to play back on a board you hit this hard on, again, i think folding pre is best.

I was waiting for someone to say this. Fold pre, you're oop, deep, and no reads or history. Furthermore, I am surprised nobody mentioned how horrible calling the turn is.

i dont think his call on the turn is bad at all after he calls the flop.

Playing suited connectors out of position is a leak against a competent player, or an unknown you have no reads on, in a 3 bet pot.

the turn call is bad. When you get there, you're not getting paid very often, and often you're getting coolered.

(I hate to say it, but there are a lot of hands that get posted in this forum with obvious small stakes leaks lately. The quality of players has clearly gone down.)

Although, I kind of pray people continue to call my 3 bets OOP with suited connectors, and check call, check call, drawing to the 15th nut hand.

OP,

I'm honestly not trying to flame, but what were you hoping to get in terms of feedback on this hand? Like, "hey guys I played this hand where a guy repped the nuts on the river, is he bluffing? I have no read btw."

People DO makes the nuts sometimes, and your line looks VERY STRONG on a paired board flush board. Furthermore, QQ SMACKS your OOP calling range here, and yet he still JAMMED over you river lead.

Again, I'm not trying to be a cool guy, but if you aren't comfortable in these spots, especially against unknowns, maybe you shouldn't be playing super deep, especially out of position in 3 bet pots.

I am very comfortable playing deep. Its where ive made all my money, actually. But just because im comfortable doesnt mean i wont get into tough spots. And this was one of them.

And i think its a pretty nitty fold Preflop with this hand. 100bbs deep and i can see why its a fold. But this deep, i think we have enough implied odds. Yes he has position on us, but his positional advantage is negated because of how much money is in play.

Hmmm, fair enough. I understand making some calls out of position with implied odds when deep, but not suited connectors against unknowns.

You may be comfortable playing deep, but I bet you're not crushing playing these hands out of position. I'd be surprised if you were profitable over a large sample. But hey, you might be a superstar. Judging by the way you played this hand though, I'm leaning towards no.

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I think this is a bad call pre considering this is the first hand you've ever played together. You're way overestimating your implied odds. Good poker players are good because they are able to gather and use information at the table better than others. You're entering the hand with about as little information as possible.

I guess this is a fold on the river but it feels so ****ty. It's rare to run into someone that is capable of bluffing here and willing to do it vs someone he's never played against as well. How long did he think on the river?