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I had just read the OP and didn't realize there was a big discussion going on about the turn overbet. The fact is most people would not overbet bet turn this way with boats--maybe you do, but most people don't most of the time--whereas your river shove is repping mostly boats. 3:1 that's the extent of fish's analysis at best and you'll have low success rate in folding out better than what we have, particularly once fish lol donks river.

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10-08-2015 , 05:39 PM

#27

Avaritia

Confirmed 2500 hour haver

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 12,248

She wasn't described as a fish she was described as good. I don't understand how anyone can put any Qx in her range at all here. If she does, she is not good, so either villain description is wrong or Qx being any part of her range is wrong.

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10-08-2015 , 08:44 PM

#28

ebet33

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,994

Well^ it's a 1hour live sample. It's hard to make any real solid reads about her game.
And I disagree I think qx makes up a huge part Of villains range.
My read on her pf strat was that she was peeling too much/pretty cally
So if she has all the off suit kq/qj/q10/aq that's a huge amount of combos ( Ofc I block some Of that, but I don't think she'll 3b aq with a hi frequency, if ever fwiw)-
Then qx will make up a pretty big part of her range. (Assuming she's not completely tooling out pre, she'll rarely have 4x, and will be forced to fold a decent amount of 4x otf, with a live range still to act)
She can Ofc have all the 888 combos, but that's not many

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10-11-2015 , 02:46 AM

#29

pk_nuts

adept

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 951

Would checking the turn increase the chances of a river bluff? Just seems like you could rep so many hands on a lot of different rivers after checking turn. Kind of depends on your image and how villain sees you.

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10-11-2015 , 07:09 AM

#30

ECGrinder

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,204

grunch - you don't state you position preflop - but assuming you're LP just go $30. flop - fine. turn - check. river - no

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10-11-2015 , 10:10 AM

#31

Z06Fanatic1

adept

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 835

Id def check back turn - shes not folding anything....the problem with the river shove is I think shes betting worse hands and very strong hands - think deciding between calling/folding is much better.

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10-11-2015 , 10:33 AM

#32

Renton555

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 5,905

Turn is a high frequency bet with this combo vs a tag, imo, it's just a matter of which size to choose.

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10-12-2015 , 12:12 PM

#33

DGAF

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4,114

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Originally Posted by busticator

This. An over bet on this turn doesn't rep much/anything in the way of strong hands imo because people just generally don't do it with strong hands (because they don't want to miss value from bluff-catchers/dead draws obv).

Whether or not we should be over betting with strong hands vs certain opponents is an entirely different story...

Having said all that, this much aggression from start to finish just wins the pot an absurd amount (because people so rarely do it without the joint, no matter how weird their line is).

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10-17-2015 , 06:09 AM

#34

boyrico

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 670

Surprised nobody has mentioned her river being a blocker bet, we bet $225 OTT and she leads $210 OTR? I've seen plenty of live Rec players do this with hands they just want to get to showdown with

If we think V is capable of folding hands I don't hate the bluff, esp since we have the Ts

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10-17-2015 , 06:14 AM

#35

look at me now

banned

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 512

Turn bet is dumb

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10-21-2015 , 02:49 PM

#36

Rhotang

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 191

Ha ha

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10-27-2015 , 10:12 AM

#37

the real mg0698

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,828

Once she calls the turn OB I think you should just give up, Turn is debatable as well

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