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04-09-2015 , 06:49 AM

tremblingco

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 163

I've noticed that the top 10 threads in this forum are currently KQ, QQ, KK, TT, AA, JJ, AA, AK, AK, and QQ (all top pair or better post-flop), and I would like to rectify this pathetic state of affairs by exploring range plans at various stack depths in the following scenarios:

Fish limps, HJ (good LAG) isolates to 4 BB, CO (loose-passive fish) calls, SB (Hero) 3-bets to 12 BB, BB (good LAG) folds, HJ calls, CO calls

(A) Flop (36 BB): J

(B) Flop (36 BB): Q

And while doing so, let's bear in mind our reason for playing poker, shall we?

Last edited by tremblingco; 04-09-2015 at 07:00 AM.

04-09-2015 , 12:51 PM

armor32

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,421

If nothing else, thank you OP for helping me find out that my tilt control is not as solid as I perceived it to be.

04-09-2015 , 01:00 PM

armor32

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I mean, you start by pretty much insulting 10 other posters and then post a question that makes very little theoretical or practical sense (at least IMO), while implying that most of us probably don't know the reason why we come to a casino to begin with... that's a super chill approach.

Speaking of your question, so hero's preflop 3-bet sizing is fixed irrespective of "various stack depth", but the rest of discussion needs to consider various stack depths ?

04-09-2015 , 03:34 PM

The Muffin Man

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Bring back Olaff.

04-09-2015 , 04:46 PM

so_thirsty

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Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 34

What maniac played KQ?

04-09-2015 , 05:07 PM

tremblingco

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 163

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Originally Posted by armor32

I mean, you start by pretty much insulting 10 other posters

I never insulted these posters. I am sure that individually their situations were intriguing and the associated travails profound. I simply observed the sorry condition (not to be blamed on any one poster in particular) in which the great majority of posts on the front page exemplified a single situation type.

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and then post a question that makes very little theoretical or practical sense (at least IMO)

I'm interested to hear you elaborate on your opinion.

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while implying that most of us probably don't know the reason why we come to a casino to begin with... that's a super chill approach.

I'm sure you know it deep down there somewhere.

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Speaking of your question, so hero's preflop 3-bet sizing is fixed irrespective of "various stack depth", but the rest of discussion needs to consider various stack depths ?

This is a good point, and you and other posters may feel free to adjust 3-bet sizing according to various stack depths.

04-09-2015 , 05:16 PM

TimeBomb

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,676

I'll sit this one out since I'd never 3bet to 12bb after a 4bb and call who both have pos on me.

04-09-2015 , 06:06 PM

tremblingco

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 163

I suspect that for certain CO stack sizes you would, but in light of your fine posting history, from which many a full ringer has undoubtedly learned much sense, I shall make the situations more interesting by requiring effective stacks to be 125 BB and amending as follows:

Fish limps, HJ (good LAG) isolates to 4 BB, CO (loose-passive fish) calls, SB (Hero) 3-bets to 16 BB, BB (good LAG) folds, HJ calls, CO calls

(A) Flop (48 BB): J

(B) Flop (48 BB): Q

04-10-2015 , 12:07 AM

TimeBomb

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,676

Quote:

Originally Posted by tremblingco

(B) Flop (48 BB): Q

What about fish who limped? If he and bb folded there is 50bb in the pot and we have 109 left. Is this really what you are asking?

04-10-2015 , 12:40 AM

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Bad Lobster

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Originally Posted by armor32

This is the easiest shove in the world.

04-10-2015 , 12:42 AM

#11

Bad Lobster

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 466

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Originally Posted by tremblingco

I suggest you take all those two-dollar words and tip the waitress.

04-11-2015 , 01:17 AM

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AAismyfriend

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,841

This thread is sort of silly given there is no stack sizes listed, and the 3bet size is ridiculous at any stack depth. Given the chosen 3bet sizing we should be 100pct value here, so figuring out what hands to continue with and what hands to check/give up seem pretty self explanatory.

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