A good villain's calling range this deep can be pretty wide. 140 more isn't much pressure to fold pre. Especially if he thinks he can outplay you.

Im never folding this, though I might play it somewhat passively and call in position to let him hang himself, rethinking on each street depending on lol-live-reads.

Don't believe in getting live reads?

I'd say there's around one or two big pots each session where they make a significant difference.

Usually I just try to take the best line, and then adjust if I pick up on something I'm pretty comfident in.

Typically more of a gut feeling than an Oreo-by-the-ear thing.

That's about right, but in tough situations it can make a difference. Can't say I've ever seen the Oreo-by-the ear

My bad, I thought the original raise came from button for some reason. I would 3b tiny vs SB and bet small on the flop and then just call down if I got c/r'd.

Honestly pre I'd just f**king bomb it to something ridiculous, like 425. Versus someone who's clearly sticky to pots there's no reason not to just pump in a bunch of money preflop with the nuts since they'll come up with all kinds of rationale to do anything but not fold and put us on AK. Then with the SPR so reduced it'll make it pretty expensive for him to try to outplay us and generally put him on the defensive with almost his entire range so we can just extract value without worrying about getting played back at. Not to mention we might even induce a spazz light 4bet considering how the stack-sizes are pretty much perfect for one.

Definitely cbet flop smaller vs this guy, as played I'm not folding but I'd expect his range to be like 80% air with less than 4 outs at best, and the rest sets. The former I'd expect him to snap give up on the turn and for him to insta-ship the latter, so as bad in principle a line it is to flat a c/r OTF with almost a third of our stack in there and then fold a hand as strong as the one we have to a turn shove, I think vs this guy's range it'd actually be okay.

I'm confused about where the villain is in this hand. You said he was SB and you're BB, but from the rest of the HH it seems like you're OOP.

I actually think your pref bet sizing is fine. Seems like the villain has air a lot more often than he has anything else in this spot, and he almost never has a worse value hand. I'm never 3betting/shoving the flop. Just call and check/shove a blank turn if you're OOP, or shove over his turn cbet if you're IP.

I am in the BB, vilain is SB... Checkraises me on flop.
Just remembered ( the only )2 hands I played vs him.

1. 300bb deep each.He raises Hijack, I flat CO with 4s5s. Flop comes Ts9s5d he cbets I raise. He calls, turn comes Kh. He checks I cbet he snapraises to 4x my bet. I fold.

2. He raises MP I flat btn with KK ( fish SB ) flop comes Ts8s2x. He checkcalls. Turn T he checkcalls again. River A he checks I bet 1/10 pot to get some value from whatever, he calls with AQ...

Saw him play another hand where he checkcalls 2 streets with A high vs a chick that 3bet him.

Not sure if any of this is relevant for the hand, but thought I'd share it anyway.

Can anyone tell me how to put the results here, but hidden? Not sure if everybody wants to see the results...

@OP

Some people love results others don't care. I think the most interesting thing is how you went about making whichever decision you made.

Use the spoiler tags.

Lots of crummy facets to this. OOP vs fish, SB very good player, other limpers behind, blah.

I think this deep i will take my chances and let the fish in, risk another over calling as well. If not, i would bomb the 3 bet to at least $375 just to reduce SB implied odds. That seems such a waste though, so I flat.

Then again, if ur really concrete on him never folding to a 3 bet then i would test that theory out maybe.

http://www.readingpokertells.com/201...des-kgbs-oreo/

I should have specified I've never seen it outside of Rounders.

Because we have the Ace of clubs, his flush draw possibilities go way down. It seems unlikely he would want to raise out of the small blind with a suited connector when he could otherwise limp. Same goes for 22 and 33, so I would discount a few combinations of those as well. All in all, he seems super polarized so I would call his flop check raise and hope he shuts down.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing a club turn because it 1.) gives us outs to the nuts, but 2.) should slow him down if he is a thinking player and realizes he can't credibly rep a flush, so shouldn't continue bluffing.

If anything he would continue bluffing on a flush turn... I would just call down to let him keep bluffing as the only hand that should be beating you is KK and he seems capable of making moves.