5/10 live at Vegas Casino, ~3K effective stacks

Villain is pretty new to the table, bought in for 3k(max), has won a few pots and chipped up to ~4k. He hasn't shown down any hands that I can recall, but has won from a decent amount of 3bets and some other pots where people folded after the flop to him. Although, I do not have much information on him, I do know that he plays 5/10 and 10/20 quite regularly and has played higher in recent months, but this is my first time playing with Villain.

Villain opens to 60 from MP, Hero makes it 160 with AKo from the BTN.

Villain calls, HU to flop

Flop K23 rainbow, (~335)

Villain checks, Hero bets 285, Villain makes it 585, Hero??

We will start here with discussion, then after a few posts I will talk about what I did and then go from there.

Honestly I would flat here. Your raises will fold out everything worse than your hand. This is a great flop as I dont think he is flatting AA here pre oop and 22/33 is unlikely either.

My plans following is hope he bets like 6-700 on he turn setting u to ship the last 2.2k behind. If he checks the turn I would fire 750 ish. The only turns that might slow me down is a Q or J.

why wouldn't you think villain flats 22 or 33 here? he's getting 30 to 1 implied odds.

i'm flatting the flop and turn and deciding the river, most likely calling to an unkown who plays higher. But there are plenty of people who will not c/r flop barrel turn and river with a bluff on such a dry board.

I had same thoughts that 22, 33 are very unlikely in his flatting range pre... possible yes, but unlikely

I think 22/33 would be the bottom of his range in position. Out of position it probably isnt even there. Assuming villain is a pro and is good ofc. However there is always the caveat that the guy who usually plays bigger will call off very light in a much lower game.

once again why do you think a pro will fold 22 or 33 getting 30 to 1 implied odds against a top 5-10% range that will likely pay him if he hit's his set?

calling 160 more with 2840 behind is 17/18 to 1 implied right. Which im not sure is enough oop to call. U have to account for the times your oppponent draws out/catches up/out flops you/has nothing and wont pay you off. A 3bet's strength goes down so deep and otb right?



Also I mentioned its near the bottom of his range. If we shut down everytime the flop hits our opponents range and he shows some aggression thats too weak imo.

You guys are going to think im crazy for what I did... but I talked to a few guys I highly respect and they like my play on the flop but I have good reasoning on why I did it... might wait a little bit longer though to reveal...

DUN DUN DUN

/ban op for being a tease


[Spoiler]just kidding

Although an alternative to what i said first would be to raise huge back. Looks either super strong or bluffy with no draws on the board. Get ak to fold too although i dont think he's that strong[/spoiler]

So my question is... as posted above if he is playing higher stakes alot more... he could be quite spewy at 5/10... what play could I make after his raise that would be the most bluff inducing?

IMHO, it would be something that says I know you play higher stakes but I'm going to outplay you. Probably raise back very small as well, like double his bet, induce a spazz from him, or just ship it and hope he puts you on QQ/JJ or air and calls with KQ because "its only 2k".

3bet smallish imo because it looks most bluffy.

readless i think that's way better than flatting because there are times where he's got complete air and he is not putting in anything more once you flat.

Harbor do you still flat here after discussion?

I vote call flop, call turn, eval river. I disagree that he always shuts down bluffs when you flat, but I could be wrong.

Your flatting regardless of any turn card or turn bet??? I dont agree totally with this approach. Sounds like you are stacking off more times then not if Villain has better than Hero... You saying eval river....but you would of already put in at least 2/3-4/5 of your stack most likely vs a good reg villain, your never folding river with your approach right? I could be wrong as well though...

If I wasnt too clear in my last post:

3bet small > flat > 3bet big

What if turn is checked?

lol I think im gonna make you wait till tomorrow to reveal my flop action and Villains action(hint hint)...

We both agree this is a bad approach?

Im gonna report this post a thousand times and get you banned for that.


[Spoiler]okay i wont but i assume at this point you want to get it all in now/extract max value?[/spoiler]

your quotes/spoilers never work FYI! #fail

Preflop, unless you've been 3-betting him a lot already, the reraise is too small. You're giving him too much information at too little cost.

Your bet size on the flop is far too large. I'd bet between 100 and 200 dollars. Once he raises you, this is closer to a fold than to a reraise, but the standard play is of course to call and see what the turn brings. Honestly though, I may just fold once you blast the pot for 285 and get raised. Catching an ace or king isn't gonna change much for you, since he's representing AA+ on the flop or a bluff.

First pot we have played together and first pot (I believe) I have 3b since he has been at the table..

he already made it 60. he's calling 100 more to win 3kish. 30 to 1

Call. Also, no need cbetting so big, make it $200