Originally Posted by ringinabox
Ok, maybe I didn't clarify in my last post. But since you think jamming flop is a losing play. If we have 99 do u think it makes it close enough to justify?
Agree with others that as played this is very spewy and maybe warrants a break (just a suggestion...not trying to be a dick).
Also agree that doing it with 99 (especially black) is also -EV, but clearly is better since if you hit a 6 outer, there is much less chance you lose (and if it is a 9 u have the redraw). Still though, given the stacks described, sounds like it would have been better to just fold flop.
And I also see the merits of all three plays preflop. Situation/Villain dependent.