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06-25-2016 , 12:32 PM
Just curious how most of you guys keep track of pots over $1000 mentally.

It is easy to add up pot sizes on 2 or even digit numbers, but once pots start getting over $1000 it can be hard to quickly add up pot sizes mentally.

IE:
the pot is $2185 and villian bets $1170.

Do you guys just mentally round to the first two significant digits to keep things easy? Aka the pot size becomes $2200 and villian bets $1200? I'm starting to think keeping track beyond 2 significant digits accurately is unnecessary when rounding works well enough.
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06-25-2016 , 01:03 PM
There is no reason you can't take your time to accurately count




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06-25-2016 , 02:27 PM
Yes but is it necessary?
To put it into context: the difference between rounding in my example or not rounding is $3400 and $3355

If this were a small stakes game, equivalently, we would be looking at a $4.5 difference (roughly 1%) between $340 pot or a $335.50 pot.
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06-25-2016 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyLuckBox
Yes but is it necessary?
To put it into context: the difference between rounding in my example or not rounding is $3400 and $3355

If this were a small stakes game, equivalently, we would be looking at a $4.5 difference (roughly 1%) between $340 pot or a $335.50 pot.


The higher the level of your competition the more important it is to be accurate

If you playing vs a button clicker than they aren't thinking properly about ranges and it should be important to know the exact amount instead when you are playing a more balanced player- misjudging equity and pot odds will add up over time


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06-25-2016 , 03:21 PM
Just keep rough track of it. There are more important details to pay attention to than if there's $3435 or $3445 in the pot. If someone goes all-in and you have a flush draw or something, then just take a minute and recount the hand and do whatever math you need to do
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06-25-2016 , 10:26 PM
by not sucking at trivial math
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06-26-2016 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
by not sucking at trivial math


Not that easy to do when you are in big pots. At least not for me
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06-26-2016 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
by not sucking at trivial math
Hey, Bayes' theorem is trivial math. Adding four-digit numbers when it's your own money is HARD.
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06-26-2016 , 06:10 AM
Just round it up. You have limited time and brain capacity so you're most likely better off thinking ranges, combinations and stupid metagame-**** instead.

In your example the needed percentage to call 26.1 % with rounded numbers and 25.8 % with the accurate ones. Realistically that won't make a difference in your decision-making, maybe it skews your decision making 1 out of 1000 and then the EV difference is like 10 dollars. Lets say more accurate calculation takes 15 seconds. That's over 4 hours for 10 bucks. I think you can do better than that by just using that mental energy for something else.

Obviously you could try to round both sides "more even".

Last edited by Imaginary F(r)iend; 06-26-2016 at 06:23 AM.
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06-26-2016 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
by not sucking at trivial math
Simple arithmetic is the hardest math there is tho

I round
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06-27-2016 , 12:29 AM
Rounding is fine. In fact I am so focused on watching tempo/tells that I really don't want to be distracted. I also take it one step further and will make a lot of my bets rounded so it is easier to keep track. I am just so used to looking at the center of the table where the graphic says, "pot size" that my brain gets a little lazy sometimes and I have to retrace it.
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06-27-2016 , 08:08 AM
I also just round
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06-28-2016 , 01:57 PM


this should help
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06-28-2016 , 08:21 PM
You guys do math when playing poker? Dafuq am I missing something..

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06-29-2016 , 07:22 PM
please for the love of god people don't take minutes of 10 peoples time just to be exact... do the best you can in a reasonable amount of time (few seconds).

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06-29-2016 , 07:46 PM
In a big pot being off $100 or would not make much difference to me in the decision, whether it is how much to bet, call, fold or raise. I'm a rounder
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06-29-2016 , 10:11 PM
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In a big pot being off $100 or would not make much difference to me in the decision, whether it is how much to bet, call, fold or raise. I'm a rounder
Absolutely amazing, I'm really, really jealous I didn't think of this.

Wow
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06-30-2016 , 06:56 AM
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please for the love of god people don't take minutes of 10 peoples time just to be exact... do the best you can in a reasonable amount of time (few seconds).
This++ please don't slow the game down with this ****. Count the total pre and use basic geometric sizing post if you can't keep track. Or play low stakes PLO for practice. But DO NOT waste time counting every dollar or close to it.
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07-01-2016 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99
please for the love of god people don't take minutes of 10 peoples time just to be exact... do the best you can in a reasonable amount of time (few seconds).
I'm surprised this wasn't everyone's response. Can't stand it when hoodied nits slow the game down counting the pot down to the whites before they decide what to do with their bluff catcher. This isn't limit poker where knowing the odds down to the decimal point is what separates the good from the mediocre.

This is the fundamentals of significant figures. You're already rounding ranges, equity against that range, remaining stack sizes, ALL of the terms that go into ex-showdown equity, mixing methods, etcetcetcetcetcetc; being precise with one of your terms while rounding all the other ones is actually counterproductive and gives you a false sense of accuracy.

Even in very basic pot odds decisions (facing an all-in against a face-up range with a draw), it's humorous when someone counts it down to the whites, and mucks because they're getting slightly worse than 2:1 on their FD ... not realizing that they are a 64.3:35.7 dog, not a 66.7:33.3 dog.
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07-04-2016 , 01:37 AM
i add all the bets as they are made. its not hard once u practice it for a while.
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