From firsthand experience: many online regs have migrated to live high and midstakes.

Despite this, live games still crushable for large hourlies.

I'm what you call a live pro. I started playing full-time a few months before Black Friday.

I have to admit: the best players I know are all online players. In a way, BF was helpful to me because I've learned a TON from watching ex-online guys play (and they ALL crush, at least the ones that used to play mid stakes or higher) and listening in on their strategy discussions over dinner, etc. Obv, they hate live poker and all the problems associated with it (tiny number of hands/hour, commute, gas, etc), but it really didn't take them long to adapt to live poker and just own people.

I guess I will learn to play online when it comes back, but I doubt my transition to online would be as easy as it was for most online players to live.

Live is still easy especially in LA because so many casual players in the player pool

I've heard LA games have gotten tougher. And of course when you play with the same faces all the time, they eventually stop playing hands with you.

When I say LA I mean commerce casino. Lol

I love having online pros at a live table.

1) I find they are so arrogant they underestimate my play and trickyness. Frequently, they lose pot after pot to me with the obvious overbet on the river bluff fake, and moves like that. It usually takes them four lost pots directly with me, because they do not know how to watch the game with others, until they learn to avoid me.

2) They have not studied the behavior of poker, with all their flagrant tells. I love the online player thinking he is in his living room, with his foot wildly pacing out his bluff. I got friendly with one bragging online player during a live game once, where he admitted to me he knew nothing about reading tells, and that it was not important. Bring em on.

3) I find they are really predicable players because they are so reliant on the math of poker.

4) Did I mention I can play their arrogance?

Math fish?

Hu4rollz?

LOLOLOLOLOL

You gonna be in vegas for the series? Let's play some 10/25nl, I'd be down to start some games with you

But now they can outlevel THIS arrogance...

wtf the youtube vid for this thread is gone, anyone have a copy? Loved it so much.

level ainec

yeah man, i love playing live with those math fish too.

its too bad so many of the photos in this thread didnt survive

live players so bad

Any way to get all the old memes from this thread 3-4 years ago?

I hope so. this is my favorite all time thread.

greatest post of all time

you online guys make a lot of good points, but theres one thing youre forgetting that tips the scales

bbj

Guess the old guys who lasted 50 years in poker aren't that bad after all. A lot if these grinders never made it in live poker did they?

If its tougher it isnt by much...

5/10 at the woods is soft as soft can be..but shh

grunch

been an online grinder for several years. sick of the lifestyle. i've never really grinded live though. i've played a lot of live in bay area casinos, but generally can only stand up to 4 hours of playing at a time. i don't like the way i feel when i play much longer than that. it gets depressing. maybe it's a bay area thing. i might be more stimulated about live poker in vegas where poker isn't an obscure "job" there, and grinders could fit in better. is there anyone who has grinded live in vegas, the bay area, and online, that could weigh in and discuss which you prefered and why?
thanks.

This is the wrong thread to grunch. 99% of this thread was the pokerstars and full tilt regs mocking live regs 8 years ago, and that zero advice has ever been given here.

I'm saddened by the fact that most of the memes originally posted here no longer exist. This was one of my all time favorite threads in 2p2 history.

lol

Hey jimmy, glad to see you still active as I always enjoyed reading your posts. Your "quesadilla range" is one of the funniest things Ive read in a strat post, and I think about it everytime Im eating or see someone eating and pause to play a hand.

As someone who had extensive online background and played hs live, wouldnt you say there is a bit of lacking study/theory behind multiway pots specifically?

I always found this interesting, and think its one of the few aress that online players are relatively unfamiliar with. Not that live players are any better (or good at all), the debate on its surface is silly and i wish i got to see the memes in here.

Just saying, i think there is much more to multiway strategy than most realize. And adjustments are underestimated by online players who are used to isolating and consider a "multiway" hand to be 3 ways.

I saw in another thread awhile back that snowie naturally overlimped 88 after 2 limpers in a simulated hand, which many were confused about / thought was bad. This is sort of an example of what Im talking about, but obv not the best.