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10-15-2009 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fackers
And if you noticed its only "verified coaches" commenting on this because all the other players never sat at a real table before.

If everyone plays SO WELL in the mid-high stakes games online wats the point of playing them. Is it really profitable? or is it more profitable to play with all the "fish" in a live game wheres its automatic your getting paid on big hands and everyone is just so fkn awful
On average, people play 12 tables simultaneously and the hands themselves go by about 3 times as fast. The reason people play online instead of live is because live players are only about 33 times worse than Internet players, and one would need them to be 36 times worse in order to keep the same hourly.
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10-15-2009 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fackers
dude ricky your canadian thats fail #1 and looking at your picture i can tell you rarely leave your house, so i doubt you will come to LA
OP, are you aware that someone's avatar isn't necessarily their actual picture?

If that were the case then Grand Melon and AGx would be big black guys and Oldschool would be a chick. The only avatar in this thread that makes any sense is yours you ****ing nobody.
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10-15-2009 , 07:33 PM
Yes your an online star to all the bad online kids in micro stakes who the F needs coaching in .5/.10 thats so embarassing wtf do u go to the bank and get a roll of dimes and buy in. Walk into a casino with your fulltilt hat on and pokerstar headphones and get laughed at f4ggot
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10-15-2009 , 07:46 PM
If you're willing to agree to someone reasonable as escrow, I'm sure a prop bet could be set up for you to prove how bad all these online robots are...
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10-15-2009 , 08:36 PM
I'm a winner at 3-5 live and a loser at 50nl online. Coincidence? I think not.
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10-15-2009 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Williegb
If you're willing to agree to someone reasonable as escrow, I'm sure a prop bet could be set up for you to prove how bad all these online robots are...
great idea, OP should show the internet players that live players ain't no joke.

go OP, the live players are counting on you!
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10-15-2009 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky1231
OP, are you aware that someone's avatar isn't necessarily their actual picture?

If that were the case then Grand Melon and AGx would be big black guys and Oldschool would be a chick. The only avatar in this thread that makes any sense is yours you ****ing nobody.
I laughed so hard at this
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10-15-2009 , 08:55 PM
woteva
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10-15-2009 , 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fackers
I really dont like the internet grinders who say 90% of live players are bad. It's honestly just a different style of play if you sit at any random online cash game 2/4 3/6 5/10 and just watch it and then watch a live game of those stakes its a whole different game.

If your playing the 5/10 at commerce and raise 30 pre your getting called by the whole table while being laughed at. If your playing online and raise 30 everyone folds except for the occasional 3bet. It's almost routine when it comes to online play you will never see a limp. People watch to many interviews on durrr and read to many articles on phil galfond and dont udnerstand.

If you take someone who plays mid stake cash games online and thinks the understand the game sit them at a live game table where its a whole new story. Most of them are going to lose because they cant adjust to all the loose calls and "bad" plays.

You rarely see anyone raise over 3x the blinds in an online cash but live if you dont raise at least 4.5-6 your getting called by the whole table. Guarntee 80% of online cash game players from 5/10 and down are going to get crushed live if they play the same game. Im not saying all internet players will lose live because some know how to adjust and mix it up but for the most part if your getting stomped live no doubt.

Theres absolutly no action on the internet because everyone plays the exact same. If you watch a game for an hour you see the same thing over and over and over again. fold fold fold fold raise fold fold fold or fold fold fold raise 3 bet fold fold fold. It's boring and routine and your all bad
you, sir, are a moron
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10-15-2009 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fackers
blah blah blah
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10-15-2009 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fackers
Put a 5/10 online player at the 5/10 game at commerce or bike and he will get so crushed its disgusting.
LOL. you are completely clueless. I must be a complete moron since Im losing at 5/10 online this yr but still crushing 10/20nl-25/50nl like it's a joke. It's a shame games r dying over here.

Btw u r complete ****** for comparing online games to COMMERCE... I've played little over 20 sessions at 10/20 - 20/40nl commerce and I've never left thinking it wasn't a good game. Commerce has the softest game in the states. It's a known fact.
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10-15-2009 , 09:49 PM
This post tells all, gotta love the way he played this hand. No wonder he's getting crushed online

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/11...mmerce-600710/
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10-15-2009 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NL__Fool
This post tells all, gotta love the way he played this hand. No wonder he's getting crushed online

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/11...mmerce-600710/
Oh great, another ******ed coach itt. Take your roll of pennies and go teach people to fold fold fold fold fold 3bet fold fold you boring idiot.
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10-15-2009 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricky1231
Oh great, another ******ed coach itt. Take your roll of pennies and go teach people to fold fold fold fold fold 3bet fold fold you boring idiot.
Go **** yourself, your telling me he played the turn optimally? I don't think so. I bow down to your mighty skills oh great "verifed coach"

Last edited by NL__Fool; 10-15-2009 at 11:10 PM.
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10-15-2009 , 11:13 PM
25NL online = 400NL live or somethings or like that...
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10-15-2009 , 11:27 PM
90% of live players are bad
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10-16-2009 , 12:48 AM
^^ 99% imo

90% are pathetically terrible.
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10-16-2009 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lucknotskill
^^ 99% imo

90% are pathetically terrible.
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10-16-2009 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lucknotskill
^^ 99% imo

90% are pathetically terrible.
+2
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10-16-2009 , 01:45 AM
Hello OP, I am on your side. I can't stand the masses of online poker players who think that they are better than live players because they can sit on a computer and mindlessly mash buttons. I have examples to support your theory, and will provide them.

Exhibit A) FantasticCow @ Pokerstars

http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...h/fantasticcow

I'm not sure if this player had an idea how to play. He made plays that I found awful at best. Hand example:

PokerStars Game #33610422436: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2009/10/03 21:22:36 PT [2009/10/04 0:22:36 ET]
Table 'Impala' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jiheemow ($1584 in chips)
Seat 2: buster910 ($301.75 in chips)
Seat 3: fantasticcow ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: petteytheft ($1000 in chips)
Seat 6: rytoast ($1048.50 in chips)
Seat 7: IntenseDawg ($1060 in chips)
Seat 8: jahwe ($1352 in chips)
fantasticcow: posts small blind $5
petteytheft: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to petteytheft [3d 9d]
EASSA joins the table at seat #5
rytoast: folds
IntenseDawg: folds
jahwe: raises $20 to $30
jiheemow: calls $30
buster910: folds
juanmoretime has returned
fantasticcow: raises $110 to $140
petteytheft: folds
jahwe: raises $140 to $280
jiheemow: folds
fantasticcow: raises $720 to $1000 and is all-in
jahwe: calls $720
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6s Tc]
*** TURN *** [Jc 6s Tc] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 6s Tc 2d] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
fantasticcow: shows [8d Ah] (high card Ace)
jahwe: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
jahwe collected $2037 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2040 | Rake $3
Board [Jc 6s Tc 2d 4d]
Seat 1: jiheemow folded before Flop
Seat 2: buster910 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: fantasticcow (small blind) showed [8d Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: petteytheft (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: rytoast folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: IntenseDawg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jahwe showed [Kc Kh] and won ($2037) with a pair of Kings

You would never see this kind of play in live play. They'd be embarrased to show up with such a trashy hand with their hand caught in the cookie jar. If FantasticCow was at a live poker casino table, he'd be able to read Jahwe, and not shove here. Just mindless poker.

As player "IntenseDawg" wrote on his wall, "fantastic ****** more like it". I agree.

Exhibit B) Online is rigged

Let me tell you the amount of bad beats I have taken online. No, I won't waste your time. Let me just show a hand to prove online is rigged.

PokerStars Game #33610708807: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2009/10/03 21:35:46 PT [2009/10/04 0:35:46 ET]
Table 'Galilea V' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jahwe ($2947 in chips)
Seat 2: roy j ($1042 in chips)
Seat 3: IntenseDawg ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: elgabriel ($1840.50 in chips)
Seat 5: MAVSDADDY ($531.75 in chips)
Seat 6: DRluck3 ($1644 in chips)
Seat 7: putyou2sleep ($935 in chips)
Seat 8: caballou ($1233.75 in chips)
Seat 9: petteytheft ($1000 in chips)
roy j: posts small blind $5
IntenseDawg: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to petteytheft [Qd Qh]
elgabriel: folds
MAVSDADDY: folds
DRluck3: folds
putyou2sleep: folds
caballou: raises $30 to $40
petteytheft: raises $70 to $110
jahwe: folds
roy j: folds
IntenseDawg: folds
caballou: calls $70
*** FLOP *** [Th 3d 8c]
caballou: checks
petteytheft: bets $150
caballou: calls $150
*** TURN *** [Th 3d 8c] [4d]
caballou: checks
petteytheft: bets $350
caballou: calls $350
*** RIVER *** [Th 3d 8c 4d] [2c]
caballou: checks
petteytheft: bets $390 and is all-in
caballou: calls $390
*** SHOW DOWN ***
petteytheft: shows [Qd Qh] (a pair of Queens)
caballou: shows [3s 2d] (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
caballou collected $2012 from pot
caballou said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2015 | Rake $3
Board [Th 3d 8c 4d 2c]
Seat 1: jahwe (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: roy j (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: IntenseDawg (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: elgabriel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MAVSDADDY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: DRluck3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: putyou2sleep folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: caballou showed [3s 2d] and won ($2012) with two pair, Threes and Deuces
Seat 9: petteytheft showed [Qd Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens

Now in this hand you will see why the online pokers are rigged. You will never see a player win with 23o in a real poker casino game.

Exhibit C) Scout326

What is this online high stakes player thinking? He's a pretty solid representative of the skill level.

I have more, but will not waste my time on the ignorant.
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10-16-2009 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JumanjiBoard
Hello OP, I am on your side. I can't stand the masses of online poker players who think that they are better than live players because they can sit on a computer and mindlessly mash buttons. I have examples to support your theory, and will provide them.

Exhibit A) FantasticCow @ Pokerstars

http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...h/fantasticcow

I'm not sure if this player had an idea how to play. He made plays that I found awful at best. Hand example:

PokerStars Game #33610422436: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2009/10/03 21:22:36 PT [2009/10/04 0:22:36 ET]
Table 'Impala' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jiheemow ($1584 in chips)
Seat 2: buster910 ($301.75 in chips)
Seat 3: fantasticcow ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: petteytheft ($1000 in chips)
Seat 6: rytoast ($1048.50 in chips)
Seat 7: IntenseDawg ($1060 in chips)
Seat 8: jahwe ($1352 in chips)
fantasticcow: posts small blind $5
petteytheft: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to petteytheft [3d 9d]
EASSA joins the table at seat #5
rytoast: folds
IntenseDawg: folds
jahwe: raises $20 to $30
jiheemow: calls $30
buster910: folds
juanmoretime has returned
fantasticcow: raises $110 to $140
petteytheft: folds
jahwe: raises $140 to $280
jiheemow: folds
fantasticcow: raises $720 to $1000 and is all-in
jahwe: calls $720
*** FLOP *** [Jc 6s Tc]
*** TURN *** [Jc 6s Tc] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 6s Tc 2d] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
fantasticcow: shows [8d Ah] (high card Ace)
jahwe: shows [Kc Kh] (a pair of Kings)
jahwe collected $2037 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2040 | Rake $3
Board [Jc 6s Tc 2d 4d]
Seat 1: jiheemow folded before Flop
Seat 2: buster910 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: fantasticcow (small blind) showed [8d Ah] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: petteytheft (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: rytoast folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: IntenseDawg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jahwe showed [Kc Kh] and won ($2037) with a pair of Kings

You would never see this kind of play in live play. They'd be embarrased to show up with such a trashy hand with their hand caught in the cookie jar. If FantasticCow was at a live poker casino table, he'd be able to read Jahwe, and not shove here. Just mindless poker.

As player "IntenseDawg" wrote on his wall, "fantastic ****** more like it". I agree.

Exhibit B) Online is rigged

Let me tell you the amount of bad beats I have taken online. No, I won't waste your time. Let me just show a hand to prove online is rigged.

PokerStars Game #33610708807: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2009/10/03 21:35:46 PT [2009/10/04 0:35:46 ET]
Table 'Galilea V' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jahwe ($2947 in chips)
Seat 2: roy j ($1042 in chips)
Seat 3: IntenseDawg ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: elgabriel ($1840.50 in chips)
Seat 5: MAVSDADDY ($531.75 in chips)
Seat 6: DRluck3 ($1644 in chips)
Seat 7: putyou2sleep ($935 in chips)
Seat 8: caballou ($1233.75 in chips)
Seat 9: petteytheft ($1000 in chips)
roy j: posts small blind $5
IntenseDawg: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to petteytheft [Qd Qh]
elgabriel: folds
MAVSDADDY: folds
DRluck3: folds
putyou2sleep: folds
caballou: raises $30 to $40
petteytheft: raises $70 to $110
jahwe: folds
roy j: folds
IntenseDawg: folds
caballou: calls $70
*** FLOP *** [Th 3d 8c]
caballou: checks
petteytheft: bets $150
caballou: calls $150
*** TURN *** [Th 3d 8c] [4d]
caballou: checks
petteytheft: bets $350
caballou: calls $350
*** RIVER *** [Th 3d 8c 4d] [2c]
caballou: checks
petteytheft: bets $390 and is all-in
caballou: calls $390
*** SHOW DOWN ***
petteytheft: shows [Qd Qh] (a pair of Queens)
caballou: shows [3s 2d] (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
caballou collected $2012 from pot
caballou said, "lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $2015 | Rake $3
Board [Th 3d 8c 4d 2c]
Seat 1: jahwe (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: roy j (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: IntenseDawg (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: elgabriel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: MAVSDADDY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: DRluck3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: putyou2sleep folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: caballou showed [3s 2d] and won ($2012) with two pair, Threes and Deuces
Seat 9: petteytheft showed [Qd Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens

Now in this hand you will see why the online pokers are rigged. You will never see a player win with 23o in a real poker casino game.

Exhibit C) Scout326

What is this online high stakes player thinking? He's a pretty solid representative of the skill level.

I have more, but will not waste my time on the ignorant.
haha that was worth the read

+1
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10-16-2009 , 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NL__Fool
Go **** yourself, your telling me he played the turn optimally? I don't think so. I bow down to your mighty skills oh great "verifed coach"
Wait, I'm not sure if this is a level or not.
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10-16-2009 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ricky1231
Wait, I'm not sure if this is a level or not.
I don't think so. Read his name.
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10-16-2009 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fackers
Theres absolutly no action on the internet because everyone plays the exact same. If you watch a game for an hour you see the same thing over and over and over again. fold fold fold fold raise fold fold fold or fold fold fold raise 3 bet fold fold fold. It's boring and routine and your all bad
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Originally Posted by fackers
And if you noticed its only "verified coaches" commenting on this because all the other players never sat at a real table before.
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Originally Posted by fackers
so embarassing wtf do u go to the bank and get a roll of dimes and buy in.
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Originally Posted by NL__Fool
This post tells all, gotta love the way he played this hand. No wonder he's getting crushed online

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/11...mmerce-600710/
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Originally Posted by Ricky1231
Oh great, another ******ed coach itt. Take your roll of pennies and go teach people to fold fold fold fold fold 3bet fold fold you boring idiot.
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Originally Posted by NL__Fool
Go **** yourself, your telling me he played the turn optimally? I don't think so. I bow down to your mighty skills oh great "verifed coach"
¿Qué
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10-16-2009 , 04:35 AM
why the **** do I open these threads? I'm a moron for wasting that 3 min. but at least I'm not as dumb as OP or the figment of a person that OP is repping.

and I'm drunk.

yay.
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