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I really don't like 4b pre with this hand and stack sizes. His oop continuing range is filled with hands that will never fold on flops we like with our hand.

As played I think nh. I think folding turn, calling turn folding river and calling river are all close and reasonable. Personally i would mostly fold turn. One of the things I've learned over the years (and one of the reasons why i believe I've been a successful winning rec player despite being not as good/smart/talented as a lot of the Wizards who I've played with (and gone busto) over the years: it's totally ok to just keep folding and get owned by good regs assuming your game selection is good and there's money to be made elsewhere in spots that don't require you to push a 2% equity edge for thousands of dollars. Also I've learned that a lot of the times you're 100% sure you're getting outplayed/outclassed villain flips over AA or a set here and wasn't making moves at all. This is just one of those spots I'm not trying to be a superstar in

I agree with this for the most part unless you have a super sweet bankroll!

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06-18-2016 , 06:10 PM

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massivetilt99

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 389

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Originally Posted by ebet33

To take a hand which plays v well for defending v 3b in favor of putting it in 4b range blocking none of opps value range and opening up to getting 5b jammed on...

I appreciate your point but respectfully disagree a 4bet is good here because he is in a bad spot unless he has aa-kk and has to fold a vast majority of his unreasonably wide 3bet squeeze range out of position. He hates 5betting all in with qq ak here because he knows if he is snapped off his hand is in big trouble

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06-18-2016 , 06:16 PM

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massivetilt99

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 389

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Originally Posted by cstevens

villain has only invested 600. you think its correct for him to call off 3400 more w/ an overpair on this flop and/or most turns if he calls our flop raise?

After thinking about it I think you are right a raise would be +ev against this villain on the flop. I'm repping a narrow range of sets but a good player would have to fold here. It depends how he preceives me. Am I donk in his eyes who is raise flop with 10-10 jj. This matters and I don't think he thought I was this type of donk

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06-22-2016 , 08:18 AM

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tremblingco

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 163

Without even a vague idea of what you're 4-betting or raising on the flop there's practically no hope for any meaningful discussion of the river. In other words, it probably isn't fishy for many players to play Jc9c this way, but it is for you.

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06-23-2016 , 02:06 AM

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ebet33

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,994

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Originally Posted by massivetilt99

I was gonna explain why your wrong but, nah

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06-23-2016 , 11:59 AM

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grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 415

Without backdoor equity I think flop is a fold with A9

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06-23-2016 , 12:34 PM

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grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 415

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Originally Posted by massivetilt99

What do you think about calling and showing down having value beyond winning the pot. Meaning if I lose at least I won't get exploited in the future by a thinking player or get exploited less by his 3 barrel bluffs and others players who 3 barrel bluff would think twice. Also I can get them to barrel off more marginal hands and I can call down with the top end of my range?

J9 is not an exploitable fold, not even close. You have tons of better hands in your range to bluff catch with.

You could call brick rivers but this is not a brick.

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06-23-2016 , 12:38 PM

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grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 415

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Originally Posted by AAismyfriend

Yep....I'd probably take a coin out of my pocket and make it easy on myself.

This was my first thought too. I think on blank rivers it's correct but de3finitely a big mistake on this river,

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