Originally Posted by Watermelons8
If villain is actually competent and thus reasonably aggro, you should usually call in both cases. AQ is one of the stronger hands in your opening range and if you're folding this then you're probably folding to 3B way too much. Of course you can just dump it if villain's a nit.
Im sorry, but this is horrible advice. It takes no account of positional ranges, positional advantages /disadvantages, and villian's tendencies and history if there is any.
Basically your take is, AQ is a strong hand, dont fold. This isnt online 6 max, its live full ring. The ranges are way narrower in 3 bet pots due to the games being more passive and deeper stacked
Even if you flat in hand 1, where AQ is doing a little bit better against a button 3 bet range, you're still not going to flop a hand often enough to make the call immediately profitable. And when you do, you may be dominated, and most likely not going to get action if your hand is good because of the obvious difficulties of playing out of position. For Ex, flop is Axx, and he has 1010-KK or lets say he even has a weak ace which he 3 bet as a bluff. Now you're not going anywhere and hes not willing to play a big pot because its a clear WAWB situation when your range is basically AQ and JJ. So, because your range is so ridiculously narrow when you flat out of position, it allows him to play almost perfectly against you.
So, if you do call, you have to have confidence and reads on your opponents post flop tendencies, and not just their over all tendencies, but how they specifically play in 3 bet pots.
Do they auto double barrel? Do they always Cbet? Or are the more honest in these spots? Are they showdown monkeys? Calling stations? Good:thin value bettors?
In a live game we just dont develop history fast enough or develop reads fast enough in these specific situations to make good decisions when out of position post flop in 3 bet pots.
I think foldng is the optimal play, followed by 4 betting or flatting depending on game flow and the limited reads you have on the reg.