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Originally Posted by BHDonkey
To everyone saying the mistake was not raising enough preflop...isn't the idea that we get callers when we have premium hands like AA/KK? Do we really want everyone to fold and just pick up a few dollars? Don't we want J9s to call?
This particular hand was going to play itself once the flop hit (whether he raised to 50 or 100 preflop...assuming a call)...top set vs flush/straight draw...it's how big pots are generated in most non-crazy games.
Unless you specifically have AA, you actually don’t mind getting folds and putting maximum pressure on hands. And when you have AK/AQs and actually want to get it through, it’s better as well.
The issue with a hand like KK deep, which GG is actually right about (albeit taking it to extreme measures like playing it as passively as humanly possible), is that most of the time you’re going to have “one pair”. Which can get awkward deep. If you have J9s super deep, you can play an ABC strat of going for it when you make 2 pair or a strong draw, and not going for it when you don’t.
Moreover, say you make it 52 and it goes 4 ways. Flop comes 665. You made it so small, that people called you and they could easily have 63s or whatever. So now you’re hamstrung for getting value.
Now you make it 100 and one guy calls and the flop is 665. Unless they have like A6s, 65s, 66 or 55 exactly, you have them crushed and can go for fat fat value.
The problem with OPs size is more than just missing value and not generating folds. We’re at an informational deficit too. Our opponents know we have a big hand and are likely to play well against our range. But we have no idea what they have. Example: in this hand, unless villain is horrendous or has some very specific hands, he’s probably going to play great against the turn jam because OP is going to have like all of the strong hands on this board.
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