I assume from mike dexter's comment he discounts KQ and QJ almost 100% because of the turn check notwithstanding the chip pump fake. I assume pots-for-sale disagrees based on his post. (Note: While I think KQ is definitely possible, I'm not sure it's enough to bet.) Anyone else on this point? A "good tag" essentially never opens QJs UTG in full ring, right?

I think if villain is a 5/10 reg he could def be opening up his ranges a lil bit seeing as its 2/5, to include QJs in EP. Seeing as he may think he has a huge edge over the others at the table...

Says the man with 34 ****ing posts. Are you kidding me?

Yes and I've only been playing poker for 3 months, because that is when I registered on 2+2.

If you think you can find a post I've made that didn't contain a well reasoned and logical thought process, I will gladly concede the point. Otherwise, learn to think instead of trying to boost an irrelevant post count.

Edit: In addition, I just looked through your first 2 pages of previous posts, and not a single one contains a thought process or rationale longer than 8 words. So my previous statement remains valid IMHO.

2nd Edit: The reason you are so offended by my suggestion to ban posters like you is because you are completely incapable of explaining your thought process in a reasoned and logical manner. Because of this you are forced to reiterate concepts and plays you learned from other people without understanding them.

"River bet seems bad"

"Call, fist pump"

"Shove obv lol"

Your posts are ****ing horrible. Seriously.

Uh huh, I similarly challenge you to go through my post history and find an instance where I gave incorrect advice. I don't know the original poster nor do I, in this instance, feel like I owed him any sort of explanation. I proffered a ****ing opinion and quite frankly I am astonished you took so much exception to it.

The mere point I was trying to prove with my previous comment was simply that I am established in this community and you are clearly not.

bluefin vs. rosaparks HU4ROLLZ one time?

I don't think you have to go into the "why". You aren't getting paid to post, and a lot of times people are just staying sharp or helping build a consensus without offering the keys to the city. And yeah, the more established you are the less reasoning you need to provide. People can say, "oh, that guy is good and he says check back river, let me try to figure out why."

FWIW I always appreciate it when a post contains a little explanation. I've seen the rationale offered here by RP and MD in other troll wars and don't exactly get it. If I could figure it out myself from the other side I wouldn't be posting/reading about a particular situation. Knowing the bare fact that a "good reg" thinks option A is better does not really make me think about option A any harder -- I'm already ITT and thinking about it to see your short post.

Jloc and DGAF and the other great posters are great posters because of the discussion. Not saying everyone has to aspire to that (and certainly not in every scenario), I'm just sayin'.

I don't think anyone's an a-hole for not being verbose, but consider this my thanks in advance for any explanation anyone offers in any thread.

I have another account on here that was registered in 2006 and has over 4k posts. Does that mean what I say is now more valid?

You're an idiot.

Bluefin - appreciate your thoughts. Banning is a bit harsh, but there is no argument that posts that explain why vs. one liners with no explanations are far more helpful. Whether one liners are helpful or not usually depends, but the typical 'do X on street Y' helps very little.

Rosa Parks - appreciate yours/everyone's input. Per your post earlier itt, you certainly don't owe me or anyone for that matter any explanations. But since this is a voluntary forum where people come together presumably to improve, one would be appreciated to help me improve. So your standing in the community non-withstanding, would you be willing to help me out and go through your logic/range estimates in the thread please?

Still don't feel like I know how I should have played the hand. Anyone else care to go through turn/river ranges and why I should bet vs. check river?

Specifically, someone earlier brought up that Kx hands would most likely b/f rather than c/c turn. Do most of you agree? Anyone think that KQ/AK is fully in the range for villain's line? Given that both FDs bricked, can we get them to call river if you think both are in the arrange? Thanks for any help here.

Does not compute.

Pre is fine. I'd fold flop since a jack shuts down action and an ace could make it ugly. As played bet 350 and fold to shove

Preflop never fold, sometimes id'e 3b.

1. Id'e raise flop 8-10 times. If I had your image i would raise 10-10 times, you can rep a wider range of hands (QJ KT T9 K9 99 TT). Put the pressure on! If your flatting your loosing more money then your making and can only rep a flush. You wont be able to rep the hands above ^. I would only flat if I'm completely sure villain is folding if another heart peels. Bink, sick turn. Run btr.....As played turn bet is perfect.

2. AK KK TT 99 or AA usually always. Sometimes KQ, getting tricky, doubtfull tho. Doubt he has a flush draw unless he plays them terribly by check calling. A good reg is always betting / folding to a raise on that turn with any flush draw because 1 - its a scare card to you and 2 - they can rep the Q so often. Therefore we should takeout all flush draws from his range.

3. His range is the exact same it was on the turn.

4. OMG never check behind here, Bet 300ish and fold to a shove.

Addition to ? # 1. Your action is usually killed if the J comes. If the flop was KT7dd I would float this flop instead of raise because a J or A isn't going to kill your action when you hit. I would almost never flat this flop with AQ unless I know a heart is coming on the turn lol and I'de have to be completely sure villain is folding if another heart peels. As played turn bet is perfect.

The reason for never checking behind here is so you can eventually start turning your missed flush draws, top pair hands, or floats into bluffs on scary turns or rivers. That line has to be consistent and followed up on the river with a value bet to balance your made hands with your bluffs. If your not value betting a straight here good observant opponents will never have a hard time playing against you.