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Originally Posted by WorldBoFree
the more I think about it, I really think getting it in here isn't nearly as good as flatting, unless of course we know he'll get it in 1010+, and possibly fold AK.
If we jam, and he FOLDS AK, or even QQ? (like a lot of people on here seem to think is good) that's immensely +EV....
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You should only flat in this spot if you know what you're going to do with his cbet on basically any flop.. if you're confident like zachvac to float or bluffraise on the flop, or just fold to cbet knowing that you could be folding the best hand, then go ahead and flat it's totally fine.
If you don't know what to do vs cbet then 5betting(doesn't mean shove, like I said I prefer a minraise or something like that) achieves a lot... he might fold the hands we race(JJ/QQ) or chop with, and even if he has KK there's a strong possibility he would either fold or flat and then check flop/turn on any board. Poker is all about manipulating others into making mistakes and I think you could achieve that either by flatting or 5betting, but you need to know your capabilities/what you're comfortable doing postflop before you get to the flop, and make your decision to flat or 5bet then.
Too many players in this spot just say, "OK I don't know what to do, I'm going to flat, it's super-standard" when in fact they don't know what they're talking about... because your reasoning should be based on villain's postflop tendencies. Think beyond your own 2 cards and even what your perceived range is, but what villain is likely to do against your perceived range. Is he more likely to barrel if he thinks my range is wide to contain a bunch of this and that? If I instead play it this way, my range is perceived to be this and that instead and what would he be doing against that range instead? If he's more comfortable playing this style postflop most of the time, what can I do to put him in a more difficult spot?
Anyway just adding a few points..
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