How much are you guys actually opening up your ranges in 3 blind structures (going to use 2-3-5 for example w/ small blind on button) with a 1 dollar no flop drop? I had been playing similar ranges to a 2 blind structure, but just a little wider stealing from the button and small blind ( prob around a few % extra added).

I just kinda realized I probably hadn't put enough concrete thought into how much we should actually be stealing/defending more, or sizing adjustments. Maybe there's more to be gained/taken advantage of than I'd previously considered?

In a 2-3-5 I'd open Cutoff to $15-20 depending on how tight/loose blinds are. Button default $15, but if both or one blind (especially bb) is too tight, make it $12 and really open up range. CO around 31-36%, button around 52-70%.

Sb vs BB similar as button, except mostly been going $15 and occasional $20. However, just typing this I'm thinking maybe this should be where the biggest adjustment is? Maybe we should be opening significantly wider here because the sb posted is 60% of the bb, as well as the extra dead money on button. Maybe close our eyes and open 100% to $15 here? This is actually what I'm most curious about now.

As far as defending, I think the only adjustment would be to defend a little wider in bb vs sb situation because of the extra odds from button dead money. I think very few good players are even thinking they should be opening button wider than 2 blind structure. So it's prob not necessary to defend wider than normal bb v but, or am I off here?

Most of that look good/logical? I know this is super detailed and mostly standard ****, but we should be looking for any extra EV possible in today's tougher games. How many of you think this is important/have thought a lot about this and made significant adjustments when playing in this structure? Hopefully it's a worth wile discussion, thanks!

if it's 9 handed there's actually like no difference except if you are BTN/CO you open a little wider

Depending on the drop as well but your ranges seem about right
Sb vs bb I just chop pre and am fine w it

Thats why i only mentioned the co/but/blinds lol. If not chopping yourself or someone in blinds doesnt chop, clearly sb/bb matter as well.

What if bb doesnt chop? I dont think we should be chopping with 3 blinds either way. Especially for myself coming from shorthanded online back round.

^^ filter your results sb vs bb there's literally 0 chance your profiting in this spot. Just chop and your already at 0 ev (which is what your trying to achieve anyway when playing bvb oop) also w the massive rake pf you will never post a green number here, so unless bb is going to massively overfold (unlikely in live fr) then your rly just burning ev by not taking the chop oop
If he doesn't chop then just play your standard ranges and maybe consider 4xing pre because of the extra few bucks out there

Depends a lot on who's in the blinds (and which blinds) and stack depth. I think it often makes sense to actually tighten up LP opening range vs competent aggros in the blinds.

And if chopping means you have to always chop the button as well? That's very standard in this game, and the less than 1% who chop from sb/bb but not the button get a ton of hate.

Yeah I have had the same experience in the Bay Area so I just never chop there now.