Originally Posted by shaveurself
i'd only be afraid of K3, QQ, and nothing else.. because if i were V, I would be like **** when that turn peels with KQ or K8, and love the turn w K3. OFC alot of table dynamics come into play, and if he wants to see where hes at... if you aren't that aggressive with draws, it would def justify his lead bet.
it's just a crazy line cause with your raise on flop, and flat on turn, you could very well have KQ and he shoves anyway.. so i put him on QQ, or a flush that just has to shove because he got no more money after a bet anyway
It's funny you mention that I could have KQ, because I thought it was pretty obvious I had a really strong hand and wasn't drawing, otherwise I'd raise the turn. If Villain was the type of player to have QQ and Villain bet the turn to see where he's at and protect against a 4th diamond, then Villain seems like the type of player who will 3bet me on the flop to protect his middle set, and would also re-raise with it pre.
K3 is possible but i don't think he is such a bad player that he called my 3bet pre with K3, even if its K3d (which would be ideal hand to have here)
My thought during the hand was that if we look at the turn, his bet didn't really make sense, 650 into a 1300 pot, giving me odds to call with a FD. If we consider the 650 as sort of a blocker bet that means he needs to have a pretty good hand OTF. Or villain actually made the flush and was betting for value, but then the river didn't really make sense unless he is a super donkey, because I can only call river with a FH or at worst nut flush.
If I call the river int his situation, I'm basically saying I'd also call with a nut or 2nd nut flush right?