Re: 5/5 Hidden Nuts--How to Extract the Rest of The Money
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Originally Posted by dankness3
Lol at people saying 3b preflop is bad.
As played I think I like a check turn and bet big on all rivers. Think he will view it as u giving up on the turn then trying to buy it on the river
Throwing 1-2 of these light 3-bets per session is so profitable at these stakes. People automaticly assume you have top 5 and call and fold to small c-bets when they miss and play fairly straightforward when they don't. Sometimes also helps to get ppl to stack off to you with jj-qq.
Bet $130 again ( yes I'm serious ). Then shove river obv. He won't be able to fold on the turn to the same size bet. Then on the river when he's already put in most of his stack and you shove hopefully he finds a hero call.
Re: 5/5 Hidden Nuts--How to Extract the Rest of The Money
"How to extract the rest of the money"
While stacking villain is obviously the best outcome, we gotta remember that we need to maximize our winnings and sometimes that means not getting all-in by the river. I think the maximum amount we're going to get out of villain is going to be betting something like $160 on the turn and $200-$250 on the river. While the idea of betting bigger on the turn to set-up a more comfortable river shove is uber-tempting, we gotta consider the fact that if we lose villain on the turn by betting too much we are gonna lose out on a ton of value.
So if you REALLY think that villain is pretty skeptical about his hand and considering folding, smaller turn and river bets might actually be higher EV. Just food for thought.
Re: 5/5 Hidden Nuts--How to Extract the Rest of The Money
I like your flop line, on the turn we need to bet probably about ~$230 right here, A) we're making the draw pay and B) we might even be able to induce a ship from 99, 77 (lol just saw this was mentioned so +1 for OP) but yeah def bet, checking turn is turrrrble esp if villain has A10 soo much value lost
Re: 5/5 Hidden Nuts--How to Extract the Rest of The Money
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Originally Posted by shpanko
"How to extract the rest of the money"
While stacking villain is obviously the best outcome, we gotta remember that we need to maximize our winnings and sometimes that means not getting all-in by the river. I think the maximum amount we're going to get out of villain is going to be betting something like $160 on the turn and $200-$250 on the river. While the idea of betting bigger on the turn to set-up a more comfortable river shove is uber-tempting, we gotta consider the fact that if we lose villain on the turn by betting too much we are gonna lose out on a ton of value.
So if you REALLY think that villain is pretty skeptical about his hand and considering folding, smaller turn and river bets might actually be higher EV. Just food for thought.
in principal i get this thought process, but by adhering to this idea, how are we ever making draws pay? it feels like with this strat we're throwing value out the window i mean if hes paying $160 with no real thought whatsoever, why wouldnt he pay $200 or even $190??
Two Plus Two
soo much value lost 
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