I was playing 5/5 commerce the other day and had the following hand happen:

Hero (BB, $1200 stack size): Clean cut late 20s early 30s looking white guy. I play fairly tight-agressive with little limping or cold calling pre. I had just shown some good hands to scoop large pots, which gave me a very conservative image.

Villian (EP, $800 stack size): Same age as me, middle eastern looking guy who also plays on the tight side.

In this hand he raises 20 from EP (I think he was 3rd or 4th to act), it folds to me and I make it 80 to go with AK in the BB. He calls. Flop comes As Ks Js. I check, he raises 60 and I CR to 240. He folds his hand. He makes a comment later about me only playing sets. He says that my set of kings was good against him, and that he folded JJ.

This got me thinking, did I overplay my hand here? I felt his most likely pocket holdings here were high cards or a pair, which made the flush or Q10 unlikely for him. He basically folded the only hand I was afraid of being up against. I figured the check-raise would usually take down the pot, if he didn't give the the chance to C/R I would have to be prepared to C/fold if he bet any future scare cards. Would other people have made a different move on the flop?

On the other hand, was my opponent too weak on the flop (assuming he was telling the truth, which I think he was)? I guess KK/AA has to be strongly in my range here. But damn, folding JJ here seems a bit weak.

Chances he was being truthful are slim to none. If he did fold JJ, he made a huge blunder.

There's other things to learn from this hand rather than his particular comment. Like, what are you accomplishing by craising that board.


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You play 5/5 and you don't know that people lie at the table about what they had?

Yeah this is more what I was getting at. I wanted to fold out any of his 10x, Qx, and single spade hands or at least charge them a lot to draw. I get that I might be folding out many hands I might otherwise get some type of value out of, but it seems too dangerous a board to really slow play.

I suppose I could just check/call and fold to a big bet/scare card, but that seemed a bit weak. This is what I was mainly trying to ask about.

I'm not that concerned if he actually had JJ or not, since that was just one hand in his range. On that board JJ and AK both aren't really that good, although JJ has a few more full house outs and beats AK.

He also plays 5/5 and still doesn't know the difference between "bets" and "raises".
Vilain cannot be "raising to 60" if you checked to him.

Idk how your 5/5 plays but in general ime recreational players aren't flatting 3b with suited connectors, so he rarely if ever has a flush here.

So his range is a lot of pair+gutters/fd, worse 2p, and I guess JJ.

I'd rather just bet for value 3x vs that range tbh.

If he called the check raise, are you planning to jam the turn on a safe card? What if you see a 10 or a Q?

If he's tight and called the strong c/r I might slow down and check. I feel like a lot of his mediocre holdings would check back. If he makes a big turn bet I might have to fold. Assuming a check back and no scare cards I would probably bet the river. Another spade would make this board too tough to continue. Same with a 10 that completes a straight for his Qx holdings. 10x holdings are more difficult to have on the turn but not impossible so a Q scare card would make a tough decision.