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Old 07-02-2012, 01:09 AM   #1
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5-5-10 no limit 350bb

Villain is one of the biggest donkeys I've ever seen. Calls anything suited and anything remotely connected. Ran his 3k buy in to about 10k playing anything suited. He is a calling station but I have not seen him bluff yet.

Hero 3500
Villain Covers

Hero just showed a 2 barrel bluff from UTG against a regular pro.

Hero is BB in this hand and Villain is UTG

Villain/utg opens to 50
4 people call
Hero OTB makes it 300 with AcAs
Villain Calls
Button Calls

Pot: 1050
Flop KcJc3c

Hero checks
Villain bets 600
Button Calls
Hero Raises to 2000
Villain gives a speech about "oh you always raise huh" and calls
Button Folds

Pot: 5650
Turn: 4d

Hero shoves for about 1100 more (this is kinda w/e here)
Villain Calls
River is a blank

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Old 07-02-2012, 05:03 AM   #2
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Re: 5-5-10 no limit 350bb

looks fine/std to me.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:44 AM   #3
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Re: 5-5-10 no limit 350bb

Pre is fine, and I think I committed myself on the flop and turn is an easy shove/call for my last 1k, but did I commit myself too early on the flop with my big raise? Because now I think about it I'm second guessing myself because no one is ever calling myself with worse. Since I have the Ac in my hand, only 2p, set and made flushes are going to call, right?
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played it fine. just don't fold and you're good! where is this played?
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if villain is one of the biggest donkeys you have ever seen and a calling station, chances are his stack off + calling range is bigger than flushes, sets and 2p. Against those hands you have very good equity.
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With 1k pot and a hand with your strength the only wrong way to play it is folding. I would prefer just betting all streets, you can probably just pot flop and stuff turn vs described villian, although as played I would just stuff flop after checking, 2.2k in the pot no need to see more cards. Sure you want villians money, but I would rather just take the pot down now and not play bingo. If he wants to call your hand is strong, I would rather just jam and increase my f/e where as you have none as played on the turn. I don't think figuring out button here matters, he called flop but isn't too likely to have 910c/q10c and may even fold these given action.

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Old 07-03-2012, 01:26 PM   #7
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Don't mind the flop checkraise, but I think you should be making it smaller to induce calls. I know it looks stronger but I'd like 1600 total then 1500 on the turn or 17/14 as I think he gets priced in more easily.
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I'd raise pre to like 400.

flop raise is way too big. click it back 1200 so it looks like there is room to shove you off a hand.

the rest of the hand plays itself out.
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played it fine. just don't fold and you're good! where is this played?
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I'd raise pre to like 400.

flop raise is way too big. click it back 1200 so it looks like there is room to shove you off a hand.

the rest of the hand plays itself out.

I know what you mean, let him hang himself in most cases, and if he actually has it, it becomes a sort of cooler.
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I'd raise pre to like 400.

flop raise is way too big. click it back 1200 so it looks like there is room to shove you off a hand.

the rest of the hand plays itself out.

Nobody will rebluff you out off a hand after raising to 1200 on a monotone board after a bet AND a call, you look even stronger, raise or ship to look "I have the Ac im looking for FE"

As played it's totally fine, but the c/minraising is awfully impossible to balance and look to suspicious IMO
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Nobody will rebluff you out off a hand after raising to 1200 on a monotone board after a bet AND a call, you look even stronger, raise or ship to look "I have the Ac im looking for FE"

As played it's totally fine, but the c/minraising is awfully impossible to balance and look to suspicious IMO

I was a little confused with hero's position.
I thought hero was in position but I now realize he is in BB. I thought OTB meant on the Button.

did you read the part that the guy is one of the biggest donkeys ever? I think huge donkeys definitely can level themselves into shoving over min-raises.

that being said, I think since we are out of position and this guy will prolly call any flush draw or pair on the flop. I think I'd rather donk out half pot and hope the guy spazzes, instead of ch/r.

And as played, I would just ch/c flop and let the guy bet the turn and crai on turn.
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:03 PM   #13
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Re: 5-5-10 no limit 350bb

LOL OTB means on the button but I was using it as on the big blind erroneously... In any case I shoved, he called and showed 9,2 of clubs. Though he had the best hand on the flop+turn when all the money went in I still felt like it was a bad beat lol
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