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Old 06-15-2012, 02:44 PM   #16
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Re: 5/10 WSOP against MSNL villain at drunk table, is this OK?

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Cbet bigger on flop (maybe $500) and ship all turns.
i like this line a lot against this villain.
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Old 06-17-2012, 07:34 PM   #17
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Re: 5/10 WSOP against MSNL villain at drunk table, is this OK?

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are you giving up most turns if villain leads then when you check back flop or is this an easy jam on most turns if you decide to take that line?
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:50 PM   #18
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Re: 5/10 WSOP against MSNL villain at drunk table, is this OK?

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are you giving up most turns if villain leads then when you check back flop or is this an easy jam on most turns if you decide to take that line?
Probably giving up unless turn is an A,K,J, or heart depending on sizing.

I would almost never check this flop with a value hand and I'd expect villian to know this which is why if I checked this flop I'd never jam with a value hand and if for some reason I did check with a value hand my reasoning would be to call turn and call / maybe jam river if bet into twice.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:42 PM   #19
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Re: 5/10 WSOP against MSNL villain at drunk table, is this OK?

i dont see anythign wrong with this

but i would never do this against an unknown tag. if he was a reg i saw regularly i like this play
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:26 PM   #20
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Probably giving up unless turn is an A,K,J, or heart depending on sizing.
agreed, I was thinkin the same thing and actually deleted this exact statement from my prior post when I asked ha.

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I would almost never check this flop with a value hand and I'd expect villian to know this which is why if I checked this flop I'd never jam with a value hand and if for some reason I did check with a value hand my reasoning would be to call turn and call / maybe jam river if bet into twice.
this I'm having trouble understanding - I feel like it really polarizes are postflop range, and basically puts a large % of it vulnerable to bluffs and semi-bluffs. all of villains A high and drawing hands (if he's loose enough to be playing combos like [ 57, 78, 67 ] (suited and off depending on villain) are able to see a free turn and if he chooses to and push us off a majority of turns. maybe I'm looking at this too WEPS-y though as I'm used to a player pool full of weaker post flop players at online mid stakes and micro stakes (50-100NL).

Against described villain who seems agro enough it almost seems like we nullify our positional advantage to his barreling unless of course your saying his line of reasoning is the same as yours above - he wouldnt fire a non value hand on flop OOP and double barrel a vast majority of turns without improving?

I'm asking because I know as I move up I'm going to need to pick better spots to be difficult for my (better) opponents IP, and I usually look at a board like this as a green light to be playing almost A2Cs an simply try to outplay/get a fold.

TL;DR - what is your estimate of an aggressie villain OOP against an UTG straddle as I imagine his range is wide and weak and we should be able to profitably bet him off more hands more often than he has something he wants to get to showdown with.
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