5/10, 3000 effective, villian 1 sat down an orbit ago, no reads minus he perceives me as lag and active. White guy, late 30's, bought in for the max bi of 3K.

2 limpers, I raise $50 w/ KTh otb, both limpers call

Flop (165) - 8s9sjh
-Checks to me, I bet $110, villian 1 calls other guy folds

Turn (385) - 8c

I bet $275, limper thinks for a minute and calls

River (935) - 7d


A) Bet or check behind? If bet how much?
B) Thoughts on how I played the hand to this point w/ emphasis on betting turn vs. checking behind

Bet 4-650. Checking river would weird given your img, strength of your hand and action to this point.

Clear bet/fold....550ish seems good

Def bet river, I like everything up to that point.

b/f river for sure but...

...is the turn a good barrel card? I guess if u bet the flop u have to be prepared to barrel the turn (which leads me to my next question) do we need/have to cbet this flop? at first glance it appears to smash our opponent's limp-calling range, no? are we bet-calling here?

Flop: 8s9sJh
$165 (3 Players) check, check, Hero bets $110, V1 raises to $400, fold, Hero?

I think atrocious is a little strong (not that I'm against cbetting here but it's not the only option)

according to whom?

I don't think it's as useful to consider someone's limp-calling range in this spot, as it is to consider just how much of his range can play this hand OOP and invest significant money across several streets on this board if our intention is to multi-barrel bluff... since that is what he would be considering when faced with a cbet, and is also the factor that influences whether we decide to 2barrel-bluff this guy.

I'd prob check back a spade draw OTF fairly often, but with KhTh our implied odds are pretty low aside from smacking the backdoor flush so it's best to bet flop plus we can always rep spades later if we have to.

Why would you check back a spade draw here? You're rarely going to get CR, you could take the pot down now, and if you get a call you could overflush someone and barrel a lot of turns. Not saying I never do it but definitely bet a flush draw here a lot more frequently than checking. What's your logic?

Turn bet is meh. Few people fold here anything and you therefore force yourself to bet the river again on most cards.

The river is a quite clear bet.

Smacks their range pretty hard and most of the air they fold on the flop they'll check/snap fold on most turns anyway (22-66, A2s-A7s, etc.), and it's a sneaky hand to have in our check back range which should be pretty weak most of the time.

def a bet/fold imo. easily can be called by worse.

I know I am a little tired so not thinking my best, but can all the folks who said to b/f give me some hands that are a) consistent with prior action b) are worse than ours c) call the river?

He should never have an over-pair here after l/c preflop. Jx is possible, but how often is he going to call a 3rd barrel with what is basically a bluff-catcher? Don't think he has many 8x in his range since shouldn't he be raising most of those on the turn? Plus, the only reasonable 8x that's not a boat/straight is A8. So which worse hands are we hoping to get called by?

I agree that he SHOULD always fold worse, but with our lag image he won't necessarily and in a spot like this where we don't really care what he has and we have the best hand the vast majority of the time it's sort of a freeroll. Either we get paid or we get to preserve the illusion that we're just psycho 3-barreling all the time which is great for our image/perceived momentum.