Hero starts hand with $950 in his 2nd orbit at the table. In my first orbit I tried 3betting from the bb after mp raise and co calls. mp calls and co jams AI so I fold which makes my play look like a squeeze. It's the second orbit now and I pick up KK from UTG1

Villain 1 utg2($900) - young player. Seen him raise his co and button and instafold to a 3bet pre.

Villain 2 mp1($1000) - jock looking white guy just sat down. He has a state championship football ring on and has played one hand.

$5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Live- 10 players

SB:???
BB: ???
UTG: ???
UTG1 (HERO):$950
UTG2 (Villain1):$900
MP1(Villain2):$1000
MP2:???
HJ:???
CO: ???
BTN: ???

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is UTG1 with KK
UTG folds, Hero opens to $40, UTG2 3bets to $140, MP1 4bets to $270 folds to Hero????

What is the best line to take? I'm not folding. Do I 5 bet? If so what's my bet sizing? Am I doing this for value or for information. Do I fold to 6bet? Do I ever flat the 4 bet to try and trap? Should I just jam AI since there's already $465 in the pot? What's the best way to max value? Any advice would be appreciated

I would just jam. You're 95 bb deep and there's already 46.5 bb in the pot. You can certainly get called by worse and IMO flatting often looks stronger than jamming. Flatting also gives the 3bettor a lot of incentive to come along and KK isn't always the greatest hand to play OOP 3 handed, especially after sticking in >1/4 of ur stack preflop

I think folding > shoving > calling.

Jam. You have KK and only 100bbs. When are you going to find a better spot than this. If you run into AA then so be it.

Super Easy Shove.

LOL

So I ended up shipping it preflop. Villain 1 tanks and folds. Later he said he folded QQ. Villain 2 snap calls w AK. Board runs dry and I take down the pot. Villain 2 says he's glad I raised or else he would have shipped it preflop. Can an argument be made here for flatting to induce a shove by villain2? Or is playing KK oop not worth the risk? What conditions and how deep do I have to be to make flatting the 4bet the best play?

My initial reaction was to just shove. (My math instinct was that the upside of the rare times that QQ shoves and it goes three-way with KK vs. AK vs. QQ is outweighed by the loss of equity being three ways.) As I think about it, I wondered how much of a calling range V2 has in this spot. I suppose he has one given the small 4-bet size (he's priced in to set-mine with any PP), but query how much you can rely on a random doing that math appropriately in real time. Just shoving avoids that. If the raise were more (like 410) and you knew V2 was competent, you could discount pocket-pair setmining and put him on a supernarrow calling range that is just trying to get to doge an ace or king and get to showdown. He's gonna have that same issue on a low flop on the turn anyway.

Min-5 bet is stronger than shoving IMO.

Folding is lol without reads and with a neutral to spazzy image.

(You can wait a little longer to give results.)

I honestly can't think of a situation where you don't raise no matter how deep here. If you flat, you are just asking for the guy behind to flat and then you are playing KK oop in a way inflated 3 way pot where a lot of boards are going to scare the **** out of you and you have exactly 1 pair. I'm always throwing in the 5 bet here no matter 100bb or 300bb b/c of situation and position. If you are IP or HU then this can obviously change. Also, any player with half a brain is going to recognize a flat oop on a 4 bet pot with 100bbs for what it is.

I don't think a competent V1 would ship in this spot with QQ. He just got 4-bet and flatted by a UTG raiser, he should know his QQ is in danger. If you just flat, he's getting over 5 to 1 on his flat call, which is something you don't want to give him. 5-betting is what needs to be done in this spot, whether it's a min 5-bet or a shove (I like shoving more).

But like many others said itt, playing OOP 3-way with KK is just not a good spot in general. The pot already had a decent amount of money in it, so shipping and getting people to fold (or even one of them calling) = profit!

I swear this account has been created to spread disinformation. he just wants to make people worse at poker.

I disagree.

Folding and shoving are very close here and I can see the merit of both plays.

Unknowns are not cold min-4betting a wide enough range of hands to make this a snap shove. I would argue that villains range is heavily, heavily weighted towards AA.

With the dead money in the pot it's probably slightly +EV to shove, but it's not an automatic decision by any means.

lets start folding kk pre for less than 100bb vs unknowns when theres already 46bb in the middle..
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LOL. Is this folding KK talk even serious in this spot or is it a huge level from everyone.

Not unknown ... a State Football Champion ... dude thinks he owns the world and has a wider range because of it