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04-19-2014 , 07:43 PM
Hand #1
Straddle: $2000 (Good Aggressive Regular #1: Calls raises a little loose. Raises a little loose)
CO: $800 (Loose aggressive: This player limps a lot. Calls a lot of raises. Bluffs in good spots with equity. Doesn't mind splashing around)
UTG+3: $1000 (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is utg+3 with JJ
Hero raises to $70, CO calls $70, Straddle calls $50

Flop: ($219) T84 (3 players)
Straddle checks, Hero bets $140, CO shoves all-in, Straddle folds

Hero ???

Hand #2
BB: $2300 (Good aggressive regular #1)
UTG+3: $1300 (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is utg+3 with 98
Hero raises to $35, BB calls $25

Flop: ($69) J83 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, BB calls $45

Turn: ($159) A
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($159) Q
BB checks, Hero ???
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04-19-2014 , 10:30 PM
Hand 1 is a v ezcall what's up w the 7x pre? Is this std or are you
Adjusting somehow? Ill open huge in some games but usually 2 adjust to ppl flatting 2 wide pre
Hand 2 i just showdown and win a non 0 % of the time
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04-19-2014 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ebet33
Hand 1 is a v ezcall what's up w the 7x pre?
It's not 7x, there was a straddle

OP: hand 1 I agree it's an easy call. But before you agree with our recommendation, think of it as a good poker stove exercise, calculate how much equity you need to break even on a call and then construct various possible ranges for opponent to see if indeed you have enough equity.

hand 2 your FE went bunkers when you checked that turn. He will never fold a worse now if you turn your pair into a bluff. Other than that, I think you will be better off not opening medium suited connectors from up front or from MP at this point in time.
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04-19-2014 , 11:20 PM
Call. Check.
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04-20-2014 , 12:07 AM
Yeah I tanked for a minute and just folded because I was thinking it was a way behind/slightly ahead spot, but thinking more about it at the table, it seemed like you have pretty good odds on a call. Thanks a lot for yals responses! What if it wasn't a straddle'd pot, and I raised to $35 and c-bet for $70, and he shipped $870 all-in...would it still be a call?

I actually tanked for like 30 seconds thinking about trying to bet him off a J, but I guess all the value combos that I could potentially have that got there on the "Q" river would all barrel the A, so betting the river looks like I have a pair turning into a bluff? Like 8x, 99, TT, 77, 66, ect...?
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04-20-2014 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by The Muffin Man
Call. Check.
Right as almost always
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04-20-2014 , 02:03 AM
Call, bet.
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04-20-2014 , 02:26 AM
Chris. Don't ruin your own thread before responses come in. You can give it more than 8 hrs.
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04-20-2014 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by surf doc
Chris. Don't ruin your own thread before responses come in. You can give it more than 8 hrs.
Haha. My bad. I'm still a newbie at 2+2 haha. Just started using it recently and absolutely love the site. Such a good tool for everyone to talk about interesting hands and different spots. Definitely have already learned a lot discussing different hands and spots and can't wait to learn more!
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04-20-2014 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DGAF
bet.
Are we betting that villain will call with worse or are we betting that villain fold better ?
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04-20-2014 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by armor32
Are we betting that villain will call with worse or are we betting that villain fold better ?
He should have led (almost) anything that can call.
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04-20-2014 , 04:50 AM
Bet turn in hand two, he folds better sometimes and calls lots of hands that we're ahead of.
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04-20-2014 , 05:03 AM
Must bet river as we'll in hand 2 if u bet turn amirite
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04-20-2014 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ebet33
Must bet river as we'll in hand 2 if u bet turn amirite
Yeah assuming he folds QT to a river bet we have to empty the clip on this river, but not every river.
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04-20-2014 , 10:41 AM
Hand 1 call
Hand 2 bet turn for sure. Do you always have to bet river in this spot though? I'm not so sure... I don't see many hands that beat us here folding, only the J and below. I'd always bet river here against ABC and nits. I'd check to wizards, fish and heroes.

Edit just double checked and villain is a good aggro player. I'd bet/fold turn and check river.

Last edited by kingal3x; 04-20-2014 at 10:49 AM.
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04-20-2014 , 10:48 AM
Hand 1 is almost always a call.
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04-20-2014 , 10:50 AM
Hand 2 I like to check these flops sometimes. We are betting the flop so often just to check turn which I'm not a fan of. As played I like betting turn when the A hits because he get V to fold so often. As player it doesn't make sense to bet river and turn your hand into a bluff. I would just check back river.
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04-22-2014 , 01:47 AM
Why is there any analysis about hand 1? That is a snap call.

Hand 2, I like betting turn as a bluff against bad players but probably checking is just as fine.
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04-22-2014 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverScaredB
Yeah assuming he folds QT to a river bet we have to empty the clip on this river, but not every river.
In hand 2, you could probably effectively under bluff against the right fit or fold opponents to get them off Qxhh/QT otr, but not as often vs an aggressive reg
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