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Old 04-25-2012, 11:14 PM   #16
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Re: 5/10 Hollywood Park

I think I just made a great argument for starting to 3 ball middling pocket pairs more often against good players deep. Just a thought.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:32 AM   #17
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Re: 5/10 Hollywood Park

call turn imo is better than jam.
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:33 PM   #18
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Re: 5/10 Hollywood Park

This spot is tough, because the flop texture was so dry which made realizing your equity on the flop less attractive. I can totally see why you didn't raise the flop considering how deep you were.

I think raising is the best play on the turn, just because he can't really call with AK, AA, etc. And you may get him off a higher flush draw.

I don't think calling the turn is horrible though. It will be hard to put you on a straight or flush because you were the 3 bettor. So, it's pretty likely you'll get value on the river from most of his turn betting range.
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:13 PM   #19
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Re: 5/10 Hollywood Park

Why did you 3b pre?
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:42 PM   #20
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Re: 5/10 Hollywood Park

I really dislike the idea of 3 betting 8 high and then not playing it for similar set value postflop when we do gin the flop. Seems as though we are looking for everyway to back off the hand rather than bolster forward as the 3 betting suggested that we should do.
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Old 05-15-2012, 06:25 PM   #21
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I really dislike the idea of 3 betting 8 high and then not playing it for similar set value postflop when we do gin the flop. Seems as though we are looking for everyway to back off the hand rather than bolster forward as the 3 betting suggested that we should do.
This is a really good point actually, and it was what I was thinking when I first read the hand.

Taking each street in a vacuum each action seems founded in good thought, but if you look at the whole picture, not so much.

I think 3 betting suited connectors over 150BB's is a bad idea.
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Old 05-18-2012, 06:15 PM   #22
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Re: 5/10 Hollywood Park

I dont like the 3 bet pre, and even worse calling the 4 bet.

Now that I know we dont have a flush on the turn, Im throwing up pretty good. If you absolutely know the villain will not call off 3500 with one overpair, then i would make a small raise (2/2x 2/3x) on turn IF and only IF it leaves me with a pot sized or better bet on river. Preferably a 130% bet on river.

If i took off down this road with 87 here, then i would only play it if i could tell the stacks would line this way by the river, otherwise we are left at the river with a committed villain (who should have folded the turn actually) unless we have a huge dynamic history going on.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:18 PM   #23
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Ok thanks. Just wondering because he's a pretty big donator. Uber aggressive though so you can't be scared. That game can play pretty huge from what I remember.

Last time I played the 5-10 there was a few years ago though. I remember there was this one Asian guy who was sitting w/ $50k at the table. Game was nuts. idk where he came from. I def wouldn't want to be sitting w/ anywhere near that money in Inglewood.
I ran it 3 times with this superuser one time. And won em all but yeah, Hollywood park, good times, where the rails say they are hungry and ask for money for dinner.
As for the hand, tough to rep the set in this wet board so just call with great odds. You can rep the diamonds if it lands and straights will get paid off unless he's on diamonds. It's a pretty marginal line to raise and very user dependent but I wouldn't do it here without HH. If he got akHH, sol
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