Game has been going for 3 hours. Game is built around one fish who is not in the hand. I am probably the only other semi unknown as I play this game regularily, and everyone else seems to be on a first name basis. I have played with the fish at 5/5 for the last 6 mths and we are buddies, meaning we smoke and eat together regularily at the casino.

Villain sat deep and has been splashy pre especially with the fish. Has been tight post flop but doubled when he coolered a reg set over set where they got it in on the turn on a dry board for about 2500 in a 3 bet pot. Covers hero.

Hero has been pretty much card dead. Winning slightly but haven't played a hand past the flop in an hour. Only hand I showed I bet a q 7 6 flop with jj. Turn 9 checked through and I called a 1/2 pot river bet and won against 98.

History

Villain (350bb) raises 35 from the CO. Fish calls. SB folds Hero (300bb) call in BB with Ah10x.

Flop: 8h9xJh

I lead 55. Both called

Turn 2h

I lead 135. Villain raises to 305. Fish folds. I think for 30 seconds and raise to 1050. Villain folds quickly.

Finally onto the hand

folds to villain
Villain (covers) raise to 35 from
Fish folds
Hero CO (350bb) 3 bets to 140 with 8h7h
3 folds
V quickly 4bets to 340
Hero calls.

Thoughts: Probably should call the first time, but I'm really wondering if my call of the 4b is justifiable. It's on the small side and I have decent RIO if I hit a hand or a combo draw

Flop:

5h Kh 6d

Villain leads 440

Hero asks for a count and calls after some thought.

Turn:

Jh

Villain Leads 600

Hero: ?? (2750 behind)

Is a shove justifiable. It's about a pot sized shove and I can have all sets
And I'd probably play sets like this. I don't think he can call with anything but KK, jj and akhh.

Call and re evaluate I'm probably getting direct odds but have to fold a lot of rivers.

Thoughts on all of it is welcome

I think pre is fine. I'd raise flop because it looks pretty strong and gives you a lot of options on the turn - if you miss, you can get you a free card or you could also jam turn with a lot of fold equity, and if you hit, you can value bet and get called by a fairly wide range. As played, unless the HH is messed up, he can't have AKhh, but he could have AhAx, AhKx, and sets. Sure, you fold out his air by raising but there are plenty of value hands in his range that you beat and will call a raise. I'd prob raise small rather than jam. If he has a higher flush then that just sucks.

Kd not Kh

It'd be helpful to know what position he opened from.

Pre I think 3balling this from time to time is fine, although I'd rather do it with a 86s or 85s that doesn't hit as well post and just go for a muti-way pot with the 87s. In position I'd size it a little smaller since we're really just trying to retake the initiative this deep, 110 prob gets the job done just as well for cheaper.

In regards to the 4bet it's fairly gameflow dependent but assuming his range isn't exactly KK+ I think a call is slightly +EV if you're a gangster postflop and decidedly -EV if you aren't capable of reading souls, so as a default I'd prob just go with the 0EV option. I obviously can't judge which category you fall in so it's really up to you to decide if you think you can deal with this spot when you call.

Turn seems like a clear call ainec, you said he's tight postflop so his barreling range is really skewed to value hands and since he's winning in the game there's no way of knowing for sure that he'll b/f AK or AA. Plus double floating will look super strong and he'll expect us to check any value hand weaker than AK back on the river, so if he checks to us and looks uncomfortable we can go for a river bluff-shove.

do you have a flush now or not?

I would call I don't think he's value betting and folding to a shove in a 4b pot. If he's bluffing there's a good chance he will shut down on the river and you can take it down..

No

Does an older tall, skinny guy named David still play in this game? He usually buys in for around 5k maybe a little more. Usually wears earphones.

Pretty fun hand. How actively has villain been preflop (3/4betting) against you? Is he youngish/Internet type? Has he noticed you 3betting light? Sounds like there's not much history between you except the one hand w a10.

I like the 3bet and once you get 4bet (relatively small) this deep and w position I think it's a pretty standard call. I disagree that I would generally be more inclined to call with 78hh this deep w position if I think villain has premiums rather than if i think he's capable of 4betting light.

Flop- you can raise for I don't think he ever ships it back without kkk. You take the initiative back and sets up for future streets. But I prefer just calling and playing poker in position.

Turn- great card for us obv. Once he bets this turn I don't think he's bluffing here. Turn ship has merits esp w our clean image for I think we get him to fold top pair type of hands sometimes and other flush/straight draws he may have picked up.

I prefer just calling the turn though. I would lean towards a ship more if the flop was rainbow...the board is just so wet right now. His bet sizing kinda seems like he wants us to shove over the top. Also, wer getting great price on our draws that should get paid off if we hit. I think overall we just get called too much. Also we can potentially bluff diamonds if he checks back to us.

We're not deep enough to put in 10% of our stack in hoping to flop a straight/trips/2 pair. I think people get a little complacent regarding SPR with hands like these figuring if we just smash the flop villain will shovel all his chips for us. It's not 2008 anymore.

Well we already put in 140 in the pot and it's 210 more to us- not a cold call. It's a pretty clear call preflop no? If we are hesitant to play 4bet pot in position to his small sizing we shouldt be 3betting w this hand against described villain or be sitting this deep.

Also, wer not just calling to win his stack if we outflop him (assuming he has premiums) we can also rep variety of hands depending what the flop brings.

Calling is clearly fine.....if you think he can fold AA/AK to a turn raise than make it 1450-1600 or so.

I don't know him. I really game select when I play the game and usually play the 5/5 or I'm at commerce or bike. I meant to say I DONTusually play this game in the OP.

It's the same players except when someone gets drunk or weekends and there are better spots if I want to play on weekends.

Ok thanks. Just wondering because he's a pretty big donator. Uber aggressive though so you can't be scared. That game can play pretty huge from what I remember.

Last time I played the 5-10 there was a few years ago though. I remember there was this one Asian guy who was sitting w/ $50k at the table. Game was nuts. idk where he came from. I def wouldn't want to be sitting w/ anywhere near that money in Inglewood.

I'm guessing a small 4 bet like this is usually AA/KK (leaning towards AA b/c it begs for a call). You're going to be 5 balling KK from his perspective so I don't think he can put you on KJ and most people aren't 3 balling 55/66. If I'm in his shoes you're repping a super narrow range. If I have AA/AK here I'm leaning towards a call. Obviously if I have any sets I'm calling. That being said you're going to get this guy to fold air (doubtful based on turn sizing) and call with most other hands if he's thinking it through.

On a side note I think hand 1 you played against him is super spewy.