One would think that against a tough lineup at big stack depth 250bb+ you need to open a nice mix of hands.
Otherwise your opponents can just lul whenever a board comes middling or low and put massive pressure on you since you are always capped at 1 pair and they can have all the straights sets and 2pairs.

Hard to believe, given stack depth and massive whale in the SB. The value of position goes up significantly the deeper the stacks. Kinda the same principle that you defend 100% in the BB when your opponent opens 2-3BB in the SB and you are 300BB deep. Yes, UTGs range is stronger, but it's also more defined.

Marginal, I'll give you that, but never +EV, I don't agree. Do we know how deep SB is? Also important.

filter ur hold em manager for cold calls with hands like this and see how many bb/100 your losing. maybe you are the only player in the world that can squeeze a positive winrate out of these hands ip tho idk
think its one of bigger leaks liveplayers have is thinking they can get away doing random stuff because of "deeper stacks"
the part about defending 100% bvb is incorrect, you should still have a folding range vs 3x opens and fold quite a bit less vs a min raise

Stopped reading here. Don't fold at any point in the hand.

Continued reading. Don't fold at any point in the hand.

yeah, i was thinking the same thing. i don't know what his range looks like, but i was assuming a lot of suited connectors and suited 1-gappers. on this board, it looks a lot like just a ton of combo draws. kind of spewy if he flopped a pair, but could've picked up a pair on the turn.

I thought this was interesting; if I were the BTN I don't really mind flatting in position to entice the SB to come along with some hand like KT. So I think I'd actually be more inclined to peel with JJ. I think we can all agree TT and 99 is a snap fold based on how many gutshots we block.

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Apart from the above, based on your reads that he's a PLO player, and he's on the BTN, and the spot is in the SB, you're 2.5k effective and its a 5/10 game I think he's going to be soooooo wide here.

Yes he has 11 sets/2pairs but he also has 97s,54s,75s (not including all the gutshots he may/may not raise) I'm definitely not folding flop.

I like a fold on the flop and I like a call, if we are willing to call it down on good runouts.

His flop raise seems somewhat weak and I think he is more likely to be light on the flop than to be holding a set or top two.

But I don`t think that AA,KK are out of question .. Given the dynamic with SB I would flat AA here a lot on the Btn.

Fold is the boring solid play .. so I like a fold OTF.

Fold flop is very bad vs the described opponent (and indeed, vs most opponents). You only need to win 27% of the pot to call, and you have two outs to the nuts that wins you a decent chunk of that on its own.

PLO players who play NLHE don't ONLY adjust by being too loose, they also adjust by being too tight postflop since they are used to having strong hands and play fit or fold post (it's a more common strategy at higher stakes PLO). It depends on which, but I think calling down just because a person plays PLO is a bit

He's Eastern European, that's not the "old rich whale". He's probably some ex NLHE reg, and now knows he's less practiced and just play more ABC. I feel like you Americans have a different view of what European means than we do here, and assume he's here to splash when he's probably a solid grinder who's too lazy to be creative at NLHE game since he plays so little of it anyway and is just here to grind some EV while waiting for a seat.

Ime good plo regs (can think of less than 5 I'll that I've seen irl) understand ranges and specifically capped ranges infinitely better than NL players.

Basically when a tightish player raises UTG in NL >200bbs deep a plo player on the button is thinking to himself "lol one pair"

That is what I was speaking to amidst my sarcasm. Not "lol plo players are degens" or "lol idiot from eastern europe", just that in my experience I've seen plo players play off very specific suicide bluffs when stacks are deep and they have position (most oftentimes successfully)

Yup exactly. This is why it's so important for you to raise a diverse enough range early when deep against good aggressive players (being careful not to raise too often because of getting 3-bet) (drop away the worse broadway hands and add SCs and low pairs) I'd also be super tempted to run massive bluffs against someone I perceive to often only have an overpair.

Which is why I ask, once again: Frequencies?

Well for me I am definatly opening 22-88 utg here.. but as for the guy.. its the first time I see him play NLH and its been around 1 hour that we ve been playing so how can we come up with his frequencies?

You'll lack value on dry high card flops - you need a mixed strategy. This is what makes FR hard

It's hard to imagine that pocket pairs would ever be open folds in a live hold'em game worth playing. They're usually at least worth limping UTG. With a spot in the SB I think that they're easily raises.