this game is prob one of the loosest games ive played in the past year. we have MP (asian crazy guy blind raising to 100 each time it folds to him) and he somehow amassed a stack of 9k. everyone is in the action type of mood and like to see flops w/ him. i have about 3k. everyone else has at least 2k. pretty much every pot has gone to showdown somehow so ive been holding back on pretty much all bluffing spots when pots get multiway.

UTG limps, i limp w 57 MP makes it 100 flat. 3 more call and UTG limper calls, (both blinds fold). (UTG is an older man, can play loose but doesnt bluff when its multiway). i call 6 to flop.

Flop: K 3x 9
checks to MP and he checks which is strange. checks around

Turn: 4x
checks to MP he bets 200 everyone else calls and i call.

River: 10
UTG old man open shoves for $820 into all of us. I am next to act.

seems like an easy fold?

put the money in and hope for the best ainec.

Maybe this is a dumb question, but why would you call twice with that hand if you'd possibly fold once your flush hits?

because you have new information.

I don't like the preflop limp. The $100 "blind" means the game is effectively VERY short stacked (20-30BB), which significantly reduces the value of speculative hands. You should probably be folding this hand from this position most of the time anyway, but with with $100 "blind," it becomes even more of a leak.

As played, after limping, when the action gets back around to you, I think you should either raise to $800 or just shove (I'd shove). There's already $500 in the pot, and if the game is really as loose as you say, your opponents all have very weak ranges. If everyone folds more than 80% of the time, you show an immediate profit through fold equity alone. And if one of them somehow has a calling hand (QQ+ or AK), you still have 30% equity against them with $400 dead, which isn't very bad at all. I'm too lazy to figure out the exact percent of the time that everyone has to fold for this move to be profitable, but I'm guessing it's only about 50-60%? And how the hell is anyone going to have QQ+ when the action went the way it did?

As played, flop and turn look fine to me.

River seems like an easy fold to me. You're getting great odds, but the old man almost always has a flush here, and there's an excellent chance one of the four people behind you also has a flush.

i first thought this was a standard fold but now i think its pretty close. i only beat a few flushes but i think specifically since the 3 and 4 on the board was not a heart i can beat all those 3/4x connecter/2gapper heart hands that he would play this way (of course he could very well be up against bigger hearts, but hes not the type of guy to think about this). im getting pretty decent odds as the pot was pretty big and it was only 800ish to call.

im still not sure on this hand.

You have a big hand on the turn, so bet it. I don't get the check/call OOP agaisnt a guy with a super wide range. Not like you are dying for him to bet T8 or something so he can win with T high. As played, there is so much in the pot and it is so likely noone has too much, so raise. Youve got a bunch of outs if called and there prob aren't too many of the callers trapping anyhow.

As played, I kinda like betting the turn also. It's the best of the crappy options. Tougher with so many people with position and the fact that QJ-, QT-type flush draws also have a straight flush draw. Prolly fold river as played. What BA said about it being shortstacked is very true.

Fold pre.

maybe shoulda specified in my orig post, but MP isnt blind raising EVERY hand. he is only blind raising to 100 when it folds to him (ie. no limps or raises infront).

But you know it's coming in this hand by the time you overlimp.

as described, pot $2620, $820 to call, seems like you are good at least that often

agreed, call>min-raise>>>>>>fold

I mean we can't play a marginal hand only to be getting it in if we get there and noone before us shows any signs of strength.