Same game as prior hand.

First caller is a semi-loose passive.
3 bettor is a semi-loose aggressive young guy. I have some history in PLO against him, and read him for being prone to fits of spaz
Big Blind is the same as the villain from my previous hand. Needless to say, he seems at least reasonably competent and a non-idiot, so I expect him to have a non-idiot range in this spot (99-QQ,AK,maybe AQs); essentially a lot of strong but non-AA hands that may be unwilling to get all the $ in deep preflop.

I added back on and chipped up a little, sitting on 1870. 3 bettor and BB both cover me.

I have AK

Action:

I raise to 35 UTG 9 handed, first guy calls in MP, CO 3 bets to 130, BB calls 130 cold, I...

Which do we like best and why:

- calling 130 and playing postflop
- 4 betting to ~500 and folding to a shove
- 4 betting to ~500 and calling a shove from CO, folding to a shove from BB
- 4 betting to ~500 and stacking off against any shove

I am not going to go too deep here but will say this: If your plan is to stack off 187 bigs deep in a live game where they are attacking your UTG range then you are going to need a new plan.

Well said. This is not a money spot at all and I don`t think that 4betting or calling are way ahead of just folding it.

But in reality:

I flat and see a flop.

At least I'm glad my plan of not stacking off was a good one with this note

How loose CO is 3betting against a perceived TAG opening?

My default against lag 3bettor would be 4betting to 420 and fold to shove to anyone. Be careful, a lag can have a tight 3betting range against UTG open though, that's your read

I don't think he makes it only 130 with anything really good, so I would probably lean toward reraising here. I wouldn't make it 500 though. 375-425 is enough. And you can potentially fold to any player depending on your image, because I'd expect for them to just flat the 400 with hands that are flipping with you.

i fold and wait for better spot because i dont want to play big pot OP vs this config (cold call 3bet BB and sandwiched)


4bet is an option but as pot increases , 4bet has to be 500 leaving a rlly low SPR., that s an option But definitely in live poker there are better Easy and headacheless spots

This is all true. Obviously my perspective was that 4 betting after this action reps AA/KK hard (and obviously AK is a great hand to rep it with, as it's half as likely the 3 bettor actually has that hand).

500 actually was the 4 bet sized I picked; I wanted it to be big enough that QQ-TT wouldn't just snap call me (or fwiw so something weird that 3 bet me didn't snap call me), but not so big as to look like a sizing tell.

Rest of hand:

I 4 bet to 500, fold, 3 bettor calls, cold caller folds

Flop (1170, 1370 left): AK3

I bet 600, he jams, I snap.

Results?

so whats the problem here?

cbet is too big. i like the 4bet pre. he has KK ul

He uses a four letter word immediately after I verbalize my call, turn 8s river 4 and top two scoops it.

At first thought you meant that four letter word was 'nuts' lol.

But i don't get what V was doing at all...so this was just one of his spaz moments?

Would be an ambitious bluff attempt with flop of A K 3 against your c-bet and 3-bet from UTG open pre...he didn't have spades and the best hand he could be value raising with would be A3 or AQ which is also a questionable play.

He claimed QsQ afterwards (I didn't see it because I fastroll in a spot like this, so as to not be a douche), which is a bad bluff attempt but whatever.


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make him show his hand obv
him having a shove range on akx in a 4b pot is just lol

utg fr and face 3b, regardless of further action call. not sure what positive things you expect to happen by 4betting