KQ is plausible. Don't fold in spots where worse for value is plausible in 25 hand per hour holdem. Also, chops probably account for a significant amount of your equity here.

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As others said, you did nitroll the hell out of the villain. LAG's dont flat with AA/KK...

KK/AA are definitely in my 4bet range in many situations. I'm just not auto 4betting with those hands all day. If you do, your calling 3bet range is purely no AA/KK, which makes you less tricky.


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Theres only so many combos of AA/KK, if we put even 4 of them into our calling range, it severly limits what our already narrow 4betting range would be constructed of.

There's a reason it's an auto 4bet, and whatever value you seem to think "being tricky" will produce in this spot certainly does not quantify the lost value long-run.

Does it leave us theoritically capped on AKx flop and allow V to triple barrel with a clear range advantage? Yes, it does. But that specific instance is rare, and its not like we don't have AK/AQ to be able to defend [unless somebody is just 3betting you with THAT narrow of a range, in which case we just fold most stuff pre that doesnt have great implied odds]. Looking at very specific scenerios and realizing we've capped our range does not mean that we should nececcarily redistribute our ranges (though it may). I'm not sure if it's possible to always be uncapped. Well, it is, but it requires a ton of FPS that will lose you way more $$$ longrun

Theres some very good spots that you can flat pre with the top of your range. This is not one of those spots.

+1 to whole post, poker 101 nowadays. Post more (or less :P)

quote "lag".. I beat his chips in the pot. Good players aren't gonna call 80 more with QJ OOP pre, if they do maybe once otf, but they're folding or raising big OTT. At least that's what I'd do if I decide to play (which I wouldn't most of the time).

nh, now call. You lose to AA, KK and win to KQ. Would expect him to play AA and KK differently

you nit rolled the poor fellow