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5/10 - AA in 4bet pot deep 5/10 - AA in 4bet pot deep

03-04-2017 , 02:54 PM
My image is bad with villain, who is late 20s asian who seems like an aggrotard that likes AK too much. I've played 25~ hours with villain over the last year mostly at 2/5. In our hands i've 3b folded alot pf to him 4betting AK large.

Earlier in the session he opened 35$, I 3b KQ 110 in CO, then he c/c 347cc, 6 ck/ck, and ck/c Qx river then mucked.

Hero opens 30 utg(2500), tag grinder 3bs 105, villain(2000/btn) calls, hero 4bs to 325, 3 better folds, villian calls.

Q108cc
Hero bets 250(probably small?), villain flats

Kx
Hero ?
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03-04-2017 , 08:54 PM
Why does V like AK too much? Because he's 4b large?

If we're always 3b KQ we're probably 3b too often, KQ plays fine as a flat

Board smashes V's range, Id start by checking flop. Obv calling if he bets.
As played x/c turn

Also it's relevant if we have Ac

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03-05-2017 , 03:03 PM
I‘d 4bet larger pre given we are deep and oop to 400 ish.

AP, OTF, pot is 325 + 325 + 105 + 15 = 770. We have 1675.

We are probably rarely folding given the low spr even though the flop sucks.

Is he always 4betting AK? would he flat 3bet with AK from a tag 3bettor? Assuming yes.

Suppose his range otf is 99 - QQ, AK. You are 62 vs 37 favored.

If you bet small OTF, he probably peel 99, JJ, AK. Suppose he has the same range OTT, you are 71 vs 29 favored.

Flop could be a c/c as this flop smashes V's range harder than yours. But once you bet the flop, I lean towards small cbet OTT and fold to a raise. Checking this turn sort capped your range to AA as you probably never check QQ or KK on this board texture.

AA is close to the bottom of your turn cbet range so that you can comfortably fold to a raise.

Last edited by keybattle; 03-05-2017 at 03:15 PM.
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03-05-2017 , 05:15 PM
Why is anyone thinking about folding and pot controlling in a 4bet pot with an SPR <2.5 against an aggrotard who thinks hero is always FOS?
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03-06-2017 , 06:16 AM
What is TAG grinder position pre? With you utg and the 3b, call, I think I am probably going to just make a giant 4 bet with these stacks.

Also how do you know he makes huge 4b with AK? Did he show? If that is true then he will think you are doing it too. Mash it.
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03-08-2017 , 12:43 PM
CRAI flop
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03-08-2017 , 01:07 PM
I like flop crai

Alternatively you can close your eyes and c/c flop and turn but I don't love it

Betting flop doesn't seem great unless you're going for one street of value from 99 or JJ

As played I check shove turn
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03-08-2017 , 02:05 PM
Why did you choose small size otf
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03-21-2017 , 01:27 PM
Do we have A?
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03-23-2017 , 12:37 AM
unless you have QQ or KK you are sort of ****ed here, unless you expect azn grinder to be completely whaling out here. Look at the board and consider his possible range, as a non-insane person. its fairly 2p+ heavy and having short of 2p yourself you should be pretty happy to x/f
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03-23-2017 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SetzerG
unless you have QQ or KK you are sort of ****ed here, unless you expect azn grinder to be completely whaling out here. Look at the board and consider his possible range, as a non-insane person. its fairly 2p+ heavy and having short of 2p yourself you should be pretty happy to x/f
His range can't be heavy on 2p hands without it being equally full of pair+OESD hands on this board.

CRAI on the flop seems best since this is a board where almost no hand will be happy to check behind against us, stack sizes are perfect for it, we're likely to be ahead, and future streets are just going to make life harder for us than for our opponent most of the time.
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03-27-2017 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pgcounty
Do we have A?
This, and why was the 4bet so small pf OOP?

youre not getting 3 streets from any hand that doesnt have you crushed, esp oop.

what did you want to accomplish with flop bet? it's a weird size.

Turn King smashes his flop calling range in a vacuum.
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