Live 5/10. Wanted to get an idea of the best way to play this spot.

20 straddle on the button. 6 handed game.

V1 = 5k ( Reg, solid, rarely makes moves, plays pretty ABC)
Hero = 3k ( Reg, my image is: solid/lag, doesn't get to out of control )

SB Limps 20. BB Folds. Hero raises 80 UTG with KK.

V1 on Button makes it $300. SB folds. Heads Up.

Hero should 3-bet to $650 or just flat ? If we 3b, are we looking to GII or is that spewy vs a solid reg ?

Thx

Is getting 150 bigs in pre w KK spewy?
Sorry he had aces but cmon man

Super player and game dynamic dependent question.

There's 2 types of btn straddle games, tho the game can float inbetween at times you can tell which type you're in.

1) Really aggro from everywhere, lots of people opening various hands regardless of position often and not a lot of limped pots being played.
2) Really passive and tight, esp from the blinds and ep. People limping big hands from the blinds and up front a lot and seeing a fair amount of limped pots as everyone is playing somewhat cautiously.

Also there are players I wouldn't 4b GII with KK pf for 150bb, but I know who they are so I wouldn't really need to post about it. Another factor is if this is a normal 5/10 game with an optional straddle and it's not being straddled a lot that could have V playing tighter than normal psychologically. I think if you just answer those questions yourself you can determine the answer better than anyone outside the situation would tell you.

If you think he's flatting QQ and AK a lot here or 3b/f them(I wouldn't expect good regs to really be 3b/f them very much vs other regs but some people in live poker you can actually do it with) then I prob wouldn't 4b...otherwise 4b GII and flat every so often just to have KK when you flat sometimes.

700ish/call

There's some dudes u can explo fold here bc he has no 4b range other than aa

840 call

I don't like the idea of 4b calling it off. Like another poster said, Mississippi straddle games can play super tight and hero raising utg over a limp and then 4b is so strong that it's hard to believe we are up against anything other than AA.

If game is playing in such a way I'm calling and playing poker. Or maybe clicking it back and folding to a shove.

If game is loose and gambly then I have no issues getting it pre in obv

This player isn't a very good reg...he is just tight and plays pretty straight forward in big pots.

Good points. This game was def. more passive type, 2. There was a lot of limping and almost no 3-betting pre.

This opponent has a very low 3-bet %, so I think his 3-bet range is basically, AA, KK, QQ, mayyybe AK...but I think he flats AK/JJ a lot pre as well IP.

I also think his 5 bet range is only AA. He probably flats QQ/AK to my 4-bet a decent % of time and probably folds that some % as well.

Getting this in pre and running into AA is not a cooler

Reluctantly flat pf. Call most flops. Fold most turns. Also 300 pf from him is pretty massive.

Yes it's exploitable no he's not exploiting you

I also think in this exact spot you shouldn't have much of a 4b range pf without dynamic. So when the flop is something like j84ss KK isn't the top of your range


Description of v leads me to believe he's probably a very big winner

4bet small gii. You shouldn't consider folding this hand for >>>150BB; both hero and villain have huge leaks if folding this hand is a viable option.

Do you think the straddle effects his range here? Can you consider 88-TT?

Break this hand down to a non-straddle hand. You open UTG for $40? What does he do with 'any' raising hand, still $150?

Do you think he is aware of your stack and is trying to prevent you from set-mining with a 'larger' than normal raise ... that may open his range?

What kind of board are you comfortable leading out into? Or are you just going to evaluate his Flop play? How would he handle a T-high board with AK?

If you think you would 4-bet fold then why 4-bet? You can put just as much money into the pot and probably see 4 cards for the same price.

In the 5/10 games I've played in I've seen very little desire to GII like the lower stakes, but I do agree with the logic that you should be willing to go to town PF with KK in 97% of these spots. I play in a 2/5 game where this is an easy PF all-in spot if you cut the stacks by 50% (1500 v 2500) .. and the betting amounts would probably be the same.

I think the smaller his range the more you should flat since you can play 'correctly' once the Flop comes out. But if his range drops down to 88/99+ due to the straddle, then I would want to 4-bet to $710 since you are OOP and are left with the same 'questions' on a lot of Flops if you just flat. GL