Game is playing fairly loose but not overly aggressive. Not too many huge pots, mainly medium sized pots as everyone is worried about their stacks. Hero is likely the most active player at the table, doing the most opening and 3 betting preflop, and likely showing the most aggression postflop as well.

Hero has 4K. Villains all have about 1.5-3K

Hero opens MP with QJ to 75, SB calls, BB calls, and straddle calls, 4 to the flop. SB and BB are fairly snug, straddle is a little looser but still fairly ABC.

Pot is 300

Flop is 10 96

Checked around. I think my opponents have a definite range advantage on that flop, and I'm happy to see a free turn card

Turn is 5

Checked around

River is 10

Checked around

I felt like I'm at the bottom of my range, but not sure I should ever be trying to buy this pot. Maybe this is one that is just a simple give up spot and/or hope for my draw to get there or hit top pair.

Turn seems like a decent spot to take a stab with Q high, and bluff river. You should have a decent amount of 10x and flush draws that play this way, or overpairs with a spade

Not cbetting totally fine

As for stabbing I think it depends on villain. Are they the type to check A9 or 89 on turn or would they lead?

More likely to check is my guess

If that's the case I'm fine just getting a free turn and river. I've tried and failed many times potting the river on runouts like this and they just shrug and call from average players.

Against a scared money 2/5 grinder taking a shot I'll be more aggressive

on the turn i dont think a delayed C-bet is horrible vs these opponents - make it look like I outflopped and want to make up for lost value on flop.

Most of the time i let this go if im concerned about balance/gto or my opponents are the "gutsy" kind who will "put your bets to the test" or whatever bull**** folks say in these situations. But as far as exploitation of opponents, i dont hate stabbing at it - I err on larger side PSB to try & take it down. we're not in a horrible situation when called.

As played on river the T pair makes it harder for us to have a T and 2nd and 3rd pair can get get curious as we rep so little at that point.

I don't know what your typical game plays like, but in most games i sit in any pair is looking you up most of the time if someone pots the river like this.

then again i'm horrible with table selection

Hi rbenuck,

Good spot to give up. 3 opponents whose ranges connect solidly with this board, and they have gameflow reasons to be checkraising you on the flop and turn. You got to realize your equity; just move on.

flop x is good, now double barrel turn and river

We aren't repping much otr, which isn't too relevant if a bunch of passive guys just have A/K high we need to fold out -- but more importantly we're the only player in the hand who's clearly defined their range as being capped. So while they specifically might not play back at you, any solid pro's in this hand would either call you light otr or just checkraise bomb it knowing they have boats and we don't (and prob more flushes than us too but we can have some flushes as played).

Flop is a really easy bet you have plenty of other hands to x here and you'll definitely want to be bettings hands like 10x over pairs and sets for value protection so you need to be bluffing here here and q hi with this much nutty equity should easily make it in to your flop bluffing range.

Hey cero_z if you still check / log into this account could you contact me? I'm a journalist, working on a story about 5Dimes. I'm trying to chase down Dan711 / Dan Bouton and I found a thread where you said you knew him outside of here. I would love to talk. Can you email me? heidi.pett @ gmail.com or heidi.pett @ protonmail.com

If anybody else has had interactions in the past with Tony / Sean and would be willing to talk to me then please also get in touch.

Also - sorry for hijacking this thread! It was the most recent one that cero_z had posted on and I would really like to speak to him.

fold pre. post is good.

Wrong again.
Post is four years old, is what it is.

U have an open ended plus two overs.

Bet flop, 2x barrel turn, river if necessary.

I can’t believe this is even a discussion.

Preflop: Fold

Flop: Sometimes bet sometimes check

Turn: Sometimes bet sometimes check

River: Pure bet, you have your second nut low (J8s only worse hand) and a spade blocker, and if you are playing flop/turn correctly you have some strong hands to balance with, not like you should check river 100%